Re: Cobb County--George Murphy and heresy, related matters

From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun Jan 23 2005 - 13:08:18 EST
Dave wrote:

Ted wrote, in small part:
This summer, I'm supposed to speak on Creationist hermeneutics at a
conference in Ontario.  Here's the details.
http://cs.redeemer.on.ca/pascal/
I haven't written anything about this yet, but I've been thinking hard
about it and would be happy to have people help me out with any
comments/suggestions they have.

The article I did for Perspectives titled "Young-Earth Creationism: A Literal Mistake" is online.  I think you can find a good argument there.  Here is a brief excerpt:

Scripture Evidence for an Old Earth

Is the earth young or old? Let us thumb through the Bible and see. In Job 15:1, Eliphaz asked Job, “Wast thou made before the hills?” Does it seem reasonable that Eliphaz would have used this question of digging sarcasm had he thought the age of the hills and the age of humans were virtually the same, varying by a scant five days?

The intent of Eliphaz in Job is confirmed by Hab. 3:6.  The mountains are described as
“everlasting”; the hills are “perpetual.” The Hebrew words ‘ad and ‘owlam mean “long duration,” “ancient,” “forever,” and “continuous existence.”

Does the Bible comment on the earth-age dispute? Consider Eccles. 1:10:
“Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.” Could “any thing” include an earth, for example?

After Peter declares that false prophets and false teachers will come in the last days, he warns in 2 Pet. 3:5, “
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old …” Who says the earth and heavens are young? Those who are “willingly ignorant.”

One of the arguments I use that I did not include in the article concerns Genesis 2:14.  YECs will say that the entire topography of the earth was scrubbed during the flood, and that the rivers of Mesopotamia were named after the rivers in Genesis, but were not the original rivers.

What I point out is that this idea won't work with Assyria named in the same passage.  Assyria was named after Asshur who founded the capital city of Ninevah in Genesis 10:11 after the flood.  There could not be a country named Assyria before the flood.

Assyria, named in Genesis 2:14, must be the same Assyria referred to in the rest of the Old Testament.  And since the Tigris (Hiddekel) still flows east from Assyria today it has to be the same river near where the garden of Eden was located.  This clearly negates a global, fossil-sequencing flood.

Dick Fischer  - Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
www.genesisproclaimed.org


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