Re: Dick Fisher's "historical basis" remains no less doubtful

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:18:29 -0500 "Dick Fischer"
<dickfischer@earthlink.net> writes:
> Jack Syme wrote:
>
> > Despite whatever Adams imputation to mankind is. My concern is
> that Adam
> > was somehow unique. Created in the image of God. If there were
> other
> > "humans" around at the time of Adam, but Adam was somehow
> different. This
> > would also mean that other human races that were around at that
> time were
> > also not of the same "image". And these others have direct
> descendants to
> > modern times which would lead to the conclusion, I think, that
> they are
> > less than "human" in the sense that Adam was.
>
> I wouldn't put it that way. But how would you feel if you had been
> an
> Amalekite? How did Esau feel knowing Jacob was chosen from the womb
> and he
> wasn't? Why worry about OT imbalances anyway? The important thing
> is that
> we have an even playing field today. Christ changed the equation.
> All are
> eligible
> for God's kingdom. There is no more chosen race with other races
> outside
> the gate as was clearly the case before Christ.
>
Jack,
I'm persuaded that you are right in your question and Dick has obfuscated
in his answer. According to him only Adam was given the crucial choice,
which would apply to him and possibly to his descendants. But his failure
was transferred to all others, even to those who were totally isolated
from him and his descendants. If the sinful nature were like a virus,
transmissible from one person to another, those in contact with Adam and
his seed might be infected. But this could not have been transferred to
Americans and Australians, who were totally isolated from the Old World
until the time of the Viking exploration for America, and about 3/4 of a
millennium later for Australians. However, Dick seems to feel that the
infection was transferred magically and immediately to everyone who
looked like the soul-gifted and sin-damaged pair from Eden. Do you
suppose there is a ghostly contagion in the very air we breathe so that
no material transference is required? Then the consequences of Adam's
fall would have reached the American aborigines a couple weeks later.
Maybe souls are contagious, so that both traducianism and creationism are
wrong, and every newborn gets its soul from the environment. Since the
ancestors of the Adamites were religious, as Glenn has shown, I infer
that they must have had some awareness of both deity and moral
responsibility. Do you suppose that Dick can come up with a
pseudo-justification for worship without any sense of accountability? I'm
sure he can, but it will be as irrelevant as his response to you.
Dave
Received on Mon Nov 15 15:21:31 2004