RE: Dick Fisher's "historical basis" remains no less doubtful

George, I thought there were no "other people." Isn't all of humanity descended from Adam and the Fall gave rise to different beings from that before the Fall?

 
Moorad

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of George Murphy
Sent: Sat 11/13/2004 9:24 PM
To: Dick Fischer; "ASA"
Subject: Re: Dick Fisher's "historical basis" remains no less doubtful

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From: "Dick Fischer" <dickfischer@earthlink.net>
To: ""ASA"" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Dick Fisher's "historical basis" remains no less doubtful

> George Murphy wrote:
>
>> Imputation of the righteousness of Christ to sinners is grace.
>> Imputation
>> of the sin of Adam to those who aren't sinners is ... what?
>
> The tree in the garden was the tree of the "knowledge of good and evil."
> Until the time of Adam there was not a standard. Adam ushered in the era
> of
> accountability. Adam made all sinners regardless of lines of descent.

Very simply, why? It is hard to see how Adam "made" people who weren't
related to him, and who knew nothing of the example he set, into sinners.
To return to what I said briefly to Terry, the imputation of the
righteousness of Christ to sinners is gratuitous on God's part. God gives
people more than they deserve. But for God to impute Adam's sin to other
people seems the opposite of grace. & the issue isn't whether or not God
_could_ do that but whether the God who "would have all people to be saved"
would do it.

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
Received on Sat Nov 13 21:33:02 2004