Re: Gen. 1:1 as "real history" or "real philosophy?"

Hi, Moorad
I've missed a step here. Is "The universe arose from a quantum fluctuation
of the vacuum." a quote from someone else? Whatever, I believe it contains a
misconception. Before the Big Bang there was no vacuum in which a quantum
fluctuation could occur. What do the physicists say about this?

David

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From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
To: "ed babinski" <ed.babinski@furman.edu>; "Glenn Morton"
<glennmorton@entouch.net>
Cc: "Charles Carrigan" <CCarriga@olivet.edu>; <asa@calvin.edu>;
<dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: Gen. 1:1 as "real history" or "real philosophy?"

> "The universe arose from a quantum fluctuation of the vacuum." What is
> the nature of this statement? Is it history, science, philosophy, or
> what?
>
> Moorad
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of ed babinski
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:56 PM
> To: Glenn Morton
> Cc: 'Charles Carrigan'; asa@calvin.edu; dfsiemensjr@juno.com
> Subject: Gen. 1:1 as "real history" or "real philosophy?"
>
> "Glenn Morton" <glennmorton@entouch.net> writes:
> Can I ask if you can point me to the word 'ex nihilo' in what I wrote?
>
> ED: You wrote, "I am waiting for someone to tell me why 'In the
> beginning
> God created the heavens and the earth' is not meant to be taken as real
> history." Agreed, Dave and I shouldn't have analyzed Genesis 1:1 in
> terms of its ancient Near Eastern meaning and historical/literary
> context,
> but should have asked what you meant by the "history" in that verse. If
> you meant merely that "God exists" and "separated chaos" in some
> unspecified way that defies historical analysis, fine. That's really
> more
> of a philosophical question than an historical one. And do you really
> need to read Genesis 1:1 to "prove" such a thing or to believe it?
Received on Sat Nov 13 13:13:59 2004