Self-stymied? (was: knowledge & proof)

Michael,

Whether or not one is a Christian, an educated person such as yourself is, first and foremost, a rational being - possessed of the ability to discern the extraordinary from the mundane. So why you should be 'stymied' by the facts presented on my website is completely beyond me. Surely, one capable of teaching Babylonian mathematics to a class of students should encounter few problems. However, if one has made up one's mind to reject the obvious (possibly, on the grounds that it may rock the evolutionary boat) then that is a great pity.

Vernon
http://homepage.virgin.net/tgvernon.jenkins/Wonders.htm
www.otherbiblecode.com

---- Original Message -----
  From: Michael Roberts
  To: Vernon Jenkins ; Randy Isaac ; asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:04 AM
  Subject: Re: knowledge & proof

  I suppose that as I don't agree with you I can't be a Christian.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Vernon Jenkins
    To: Randy Isaac ; asa@calvin.edu
    Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:31 PM
    Subject: Re: knowledge & proof

    Randy,

    You've brought to our notice a matter whose outcome should no longer depend on outmoded argument and lengthy debate. Possibly you've missed some of my earlier postings to the list which concern the unique nature of the Bible's first verse in the original Hebrew. From it we deduce that there can no longer be any doubt concerning the being and sovereignty of Almighty God.

    One's subconscious desires can have nothing to do with self-evident truth.

    Vernon
    http://homepage.virgin.net/tgvernon.jenkins/Wonders.htm
    www.otherbiblecode.com

    ---- Original Message -----
      From: Randy Isaac
      To: asa@calvin.edu
      Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:51 PM
      Subject: Re: knowledge & proof

      Don, you wrote: "Through interaction God redefined me in a manner somewhat similar to the way in which my parents defined me originally. All my personal assurances about personal existence have their roots in these interactions."

      How did you distinguish between the focus of your interaction as being with God and not with a projection of yourself or other psychological influence?

      I'm leading a discussion series in our church on Armand Nicholi's pbs series "The Question of God" and it seems that the CS Lewis vs. Freud debate comes down to exactly that question. Is our experience of God really with a supernatural Creator or is it, as Freud insisted, a product of our subconscious desires? Our audience seems to leave the meetings convinced of the position with which they arrived. No one is being persuaded to change their mind.

      Randy
Received on Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:46:38 -0000