Re: Teaching science/Christianity to middle schoolers

From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue Mar 23 2004 - 10:31:07 EST
Burgy wrote:

But a couple of the statements don't seem quite right.

Some obvious red herrings are buried in the statements, i. e.:

Difficulties in arriving at truth:
        Past history is not directly observable
        Geologic and fossil records are discontinuous
        Both scientists and theologians come to the discussion with many
assumptions
        Almost all mutations are harmful—was this always the case?
        Dating methods produce inconsistent results


"Past history is not directly observable." 

If you want to push the issue, only "now" is observable unless we have it on videotape.  But this doesn't mean we can't know the past with a high degree of certainty.

"Geologic and fossil records are discontinuous."

Due to the reality that we don't have any place on earth that has undergone continuous deposition over 4.6 billion years, one continuous geologic column is not found in one place that covers the entire geologic history of planet earth.  We do have a fairly continuous geologic column established by lining up the areas of overlap and observing the geologic sequence from various sites and accounting for regional differences.  So the word "discontinuous" is misleading, and only tells part of the story.

"Both scientists and theologians come to the discussion with many assumptions"

Again, misleading.  Scientists use verifiable data and evidence, proven methods of collection and evaluation to support their theories and try to avoid unfounded assumptions as best they can.  Theology is not bounded by the same rules of evidence.  How would you falsify the theology of a Muslim cleric who merely quotes from a book of collected platitudes?

"Almost all mutations are harmful—was this always the case?"

Questions are good.  Not much harm in asking questions.

"Dating methods produce inconsistent results"

Grossly misleading, bordering on utterly false.  All testing methods have inherent limitations.  IQ tests, drivers tests, medical examinations, you name it.  So you could say almost every test produces inconsistent results - which says nothing really.   A more valuable statement would be: "Current methods of dating rock samples produce consistent results within acceptable margins of error."

Dick Fischer  - Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
www.genesisproclaimed.org
Received on Tue Mar 23 10:35:04 2004

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