Re: Wells and Molecular Phylogenies

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Sun Oct 26 2003 - 13:30:39 EST

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    Dave is perfectly fair. I long for the day when I can find a YEC who does
    not falsify to such an extent that one can only conclude it is deliberate.

    Can anyone name a YEcreationist book or a YEcreationist speaker who does not
    falsify to such an extent that it must be deliberate.

    In common parlance that is lying.

    Regards

    Michael

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Iain Strachan" <iain.strachan.asa@ntlworld.com>
    To: <allenroy@peoplepc.com>; "D. F. Siemens, Jr." <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
    Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:56 PM
    Subject: Re: Wells and Molecular Phylogenies

    > David F. Siemens:
    > >
    > > This braying jackass refuses to recognize that bacterial and viral genes
    > > have been incorporated in most genomes by transfer. It has nothing to do
    > > with descent. I find it hard to believe that anyone with even the most
    > > rudimentary familiarity with the literature would make a statement like
    > > Anderson's. I conclude that such falsehood must be deliberate.
    > > Dave
    > >
    >
    > Since Vernon Jenkins has been taken to task and asked to apologise for the
    > relatively minor slip of allowing the word "Gulag" to get into an ironic
    > response, and told by G.M. to apologise, I feel compelled to take issue
    with
    > the above piece of nastiness, typical of much that I see on the list that
    > goes unchallenged because it is directed at YEC's rather than by them.
    >
    > If the above had actually been directed to a poster on a list, rather than
    > one being cited as a poster, it ought to have been condemned as an
    outright
    > ad hominem attack, calling the person simultaneously a "braying jackass",
    > and also a liar. I trust Siemens will do the decent thing and apologise
    > for this intemperate outburst. However scientifically valid the point
    > you're making is, David, you have absolutely no right to couch it in such
    > language.
    >
    > Iain Strachan.
    >
    >
    >



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