Re: Phillip Johnson (and Methodological Naturalism)

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Thu Oct 16 2003 - 08:41:52 EDT

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    But I love glaciers and moraines they are so wonderful and beautiful and now
    you say they are not intelligently designed .

    That upsets me

    Michael
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Howard J. Van Till" <hvantill@chartermi.net>
    To: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>; <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:11 PM
    Subject: Re: Phillip Johnson (and Methodological Naturalism)

    > >From: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
    >
    > > If the Ice Age was the result of the Flood then Glaciers and Moraines
    can be
    > > seen to be intelligently designed
    >
    > Michael,
    >
    > Well, not exactly. Here's the problem. The pattern set by ID advocates
    seems
    > to be that inanimate objects like stars and planets (which, I presume,
    > include glaciers and moraines) are labeled "intelligently designed" when
    > they are formed as a consequence of a robust (& fine-tuned) system of
    > natural formational capabilities. Biotic things, on the other hand, are
    > labeled "intelligently designed" when the system of natural capabilities
    is
    > inadequate to do the job and needs to be supplemented by occasional
    episodes
    > of non-natural form-imposing intervention by an unidentified, unembodied,
    > choice-making agent who need not be God.
    >
    > So, sorry, but your glaciers and moraines can't be intelligently designed
    :)
    >
    > Howard Van Till
    >
    >



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