Re: Questions to Allen Roy

From: allenroy (allenroy@peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu Oct 09 2003 - 07:01:32 EDT

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    gordon brown wrote:

    > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, allenroy wrote:
    > > How did Jesus present it? He compared it to his Second Coming.
    > > If the Flood was a local event, is his Second Coming to be merely a local event too?
    >
    > The comparison between the Second Coming and the Flood concerns the
    > unexpectedness of both events. Read the context. You can reach some pretty
    > ridiculous conclusions when you try to make comparisons beyond those that
    > are intended.

    Matt 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but
    only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of
    Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving
    in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would
    happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the
    Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women
    will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

    Yes. Verses 36, 37 and 39 talk of the unexpectedness of both events. But, we know more about
    the second coming that what is given in just this verse.

    Matt. 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, `Look, here is the Christ!' or, `There he is!'
    do not believe it. ... 26 "So if anyone tells you, `There he is, out in the desert,' do not go
    out; or, `Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes
    from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. ... 30 "At
    that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth
    will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great
    glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect
    from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

    So, on one hand we have 1) "all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of
    Man coming on the clouds of the sky," "as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in
    the west" and on the other 2) "the flood came and took them all away." Since we are told "As
    it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man," then the flood took
    them ALL AWAY just as ALL NATIONS will see the coming like lighting is visible from east to
    west.

    We are told that Jesus will not appear here or there on the earth to a few, but rather that ALL
    NATIONS will see Him come. If you claim that the Flood did not take them all away, then you have
    no reason to believe that all nations will see Him come but rather that Jesus will appear hear
    or there to just a few.

    Allen



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