Re: extra stuff

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Wed Oct 08 2003 - 06:47:30 EDT

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    Allen

    Were the Precambrian fossils eg stromalites and Edicaran fauna laid down
    before of after the Flood or before or after Adam? With a scattering of
    fossils in the Precambrain going back to 3 by thsi casuse a problems to you
    .

    Michael
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "allenroy" <allenroy@peoplepc.com>
    To: "Don Winterstein" <dfwinterstein@msn.com>
    Cc: "asa" <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:29 AM
    Subject: extra stuff

    > Don Winterstein wrote:
    >
    > > The rub comes because of all the weird stuff unnecessary for the
    functioning
    > > of God's young world. This extra stuff includes such things as the
    fossil
    > > distributions, the galactic red shifts, the changes that lead to
    systematic
    > > differences in radiometric ages, etc., etc. Analyses of these things
    all
    > > strongly indicate great age, so this extra stuff would be
    misrepresenting the
    > > age of such a young world. Such things play no conceivable necessary
    part in a
    > > functioning young ecosystem.
    > >
    >
    > My focus was on the biosphere with which Adam and Eve would have been
    intimately
    > associated. It was the Biosphere which had to look old, although created
    just a
    > short time before complete and balanced.
    >
    > Were there fossils in the ground at that time? Your answer to that
    depends upon
    > whether you believe that fossils were the product of Noah's Flood, or if
    you
    > believe that fossils predated Adam and Eve. I don't believe that there
    were
    > fossils in the ground at the time of Adam and Eve. No fossils, no "extra
    stuff"
    > that might point to and old biosphere contrary to what God told them. It
    is
    > only if you believe that there were fossils in the ground at their time
    that it
    > becomes an obstacle for God's truth.
    >
    > But what about today? Do fossils in the ground to day point to an old
    > biosphere? Do they make God into a liar? yes, but only if you believe
    that the
    > fossils in the ground predate the Creation week. If you believe that the
    > fossils are the product of Noah's' flood, then they would not predate the
    > Creation week and would not make God into a liar.
    >
    > Radiometric ages and Galactic red shifts. Remember that I'm not your
    typical
    > YEC. I believe that the universe could be very old, so galactic red
    shifts, nor
    > the rest of astronomy as usually interpreted, are much of a problem. Nor
    is
    > isometric ages when applied to certain igneous rock on earth, typically,
    > Pre-cambrian and older, Moon Rock, and meteorites.
    >
    > But igneous rock that is part of, or in between sections of, the
    Phanerozoic
    > rock, I believe are to be dated to the Flood event (some parts shortly
    there
    > after) and so cannot be older than a few thousand years. Therefore, all
    > supposed isotopic dates derived from them are actually irrelevant. So,
    the
    > fossils in the phanerozoic are not ancient, but are flood products. So,
    God has
    > not lied about the young age of the Biosphere. The evidence of the
    fossils and
    > isometric dating does not counter the Bible. Fossils came after the
    Creation
    > week and the interpretation of ages of phanerozoic rock as old ages from
    isotope
    > ratios depends upon the rock already being thought to be old. If they are
    > young, then the computed ages are actually irrelevant.
    >
    > Allen
    >
    >



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