Re: RATE

From: allenroy (allenroy@peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat Oct 04 2003 - 12:55:02 EDT

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    Michael Roberts wrote:

    > Woodmarappe and other leading YECs who have made many many distortions have
    > been criticised hundreds of times over the last 40 years by competent
    > scientists of all faiths but they will not retract, apologise or correct their
    > errors. That is not a Christian or honest attitude.

    Just because there are people who criticize the YEC position and claim
    distortion of sources etc. does not mean that the YEC consider those criticisms
    and distortion claims justified. They do not believe that they have anything to
    apologize for. In fact, they believe that those who distort their position
    should be apologizing to them.

    > I could easily go through Wood's list and itemise each one - assuming I had
    > access to the journals cited.

    Yeah, sure.
    I've have read other claims of distortion and misquotes by Woodmorappe. When
    evidence is actually produced, I've found that it largely consist of quotes
    where Woodmorappe did not include interpretation or rationalization of the raw
    data (which, of course, is irrelevant to the existence of the raw data) into the
    evolutionary/gradualistic party line. Or, those claiming misquote misunderstood
    the evidence themselves.

    > This has been done many times by Morton,

    Morton's consist of comparing evolutionary interpretation with Woodmorappe's
    interpretation and claiming that the evolutionary interpretation is the only
    valid interpretation.

    > Schimmerich,

    Schimmerich does the same thing as morton.

    > and Wiens who you simply dismiss as 6th grade.

    Wiens' article on isometric dating is 6th grade level propaganda. It does not
    even address any claim by any YEC concerning the problems with isometric dating.

    > When you add the number of scientists outside the ASA fratenity there are a
    > lot agianst you.

    I see, so truth is determined by vote.

    > It is clear to me that no evidence biblical or scientific could possibly
    > convince you so I will sign off.

    I simply asked for the evidence you said you had found and all I get is
    assertions and pontification.

    Allen



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