From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Wed Oct 08 2003 - 05:45:08 EDT
I will put my comments into Gordon's
Michael
>
> I think I am more interested in the question of how this situation arose
> than I am in why it continues. It continues because people hear certain
> things from tose they trust and believe them.
>
> I am old enough to remember the days before Morris's writings appeared.
> There were many YECs around, but they didn't seem to be militant, didn't
> advocate flood geology, a vapor canopy, different physics before the Fall,
> etc. They seemed to tolerate those believers who were old earth, although
> it was probably better not to be a theistic evolutionist. Nowadays the
> issue is far more divisive. I am afraid that we took the scientific
> creation movement too lightly when it first appeared.
MBR In the UK before 1980 or 1975 YECs were very rare indeed and virtually
absent in the Churhc of England and all mainstream denoms. That has changed.
Also before the 70s many in the US adopted some kind of OEC but that has
changed.
>
> It appears that there are effective tactics for some movements to change
> the beliefs of vast numbers of evangelicals. This is disturbing. Here is
> what some of them are:
> Provide literature, movies, etc. for Sunday Schools, home schools,
> Christian bookstores, etc.
> Give lectures.
And dont give oppurtunities for the audience to respond as well as
inflating your credentials
> Demand equal time in the schools.
This has happened only in the UK but not in the USA!!! The Brits have been
caught unawares.
> Claim to be an expert.
( x=unknown factor spirt is a drip under pressure) BTW I am going to set
myself up as a consultant in fluid mechanics!!
> Don't reveal the field in which you got your degree.
Precisely
> Loudly proclaim to be defending orthodoxy.
Keep Inerrancy to the fore as a totemic belief, that means you dont have to
read the bible.
Also deny that Warfield accepted evolution!!
> Label all who disagree with you as heretics.
A wonderful tactic as you can put a smudge agianst anyone else. Also
consider the ways of forcing people out of church - pace Terry Gray and H
Van Till. I am sick of YECs (both leaders and pretty little daughters)
telling me I cannot believe in the Resurrection etc etc
> Don't tell anyone that you borrowed your ideas from the Seventh Day
> Adventists.
Actually the plagiarised them, which is worse
I am afraid that the YEC movement simply does not come up to the standards
demanded by our Lord
>
> Someone in this thread indicated that YECs presented themselves as
> defending Genesis 1 and 2. They do claim to, but this is ironic,
> especially in the case of Genesis 2, where they ignore certain passages
> and take others out of context.
>
> Gordon Brown
> Department of Mathematics
> University of Colorado
> Boulder, CO 80309-0395
>
>
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