Re: homosexuality & holy war (was Re: Sin?)

From: RFaussette@aol.com
Date: Tue Jul 29 2003 - 20:29:55 EDT

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    In a message dated 7/29/03 7:21:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gmurphy@raex.com
    writes:

    > As I have said numerous times, I am not arguing for homosexuality, though I
    > do
    > think that the church needs to deal in a sensitive way with people who have
    > a
    > non-volitional homosexual orientation.

    There are very few people I would imagine with a "non-volitional" homosexual
    orientation and that is the first time you used that qualifier in this long
    thread. That's like saying I defend the nazis and later saying onbly the nazis
    who were forced at gunpoint to don nazi uniforms. changes the argument.

     What I have been arguing here is simply that the

    > non-procreative aspect of homosexual activity, while not irrelevant to
    > theological &
    > ethical issues, cannot in itself determine the church's theological or
    > ethical position
    > or its pastoral practice. I doubt that it will be helpful for the 2 of us
    > to debate the
    > matter further here.
    >
    > Shalom,
    > George
    >
    >

    I did not restrict myself to the non-procreative aspect. As a lack of self
    discipline and a perversion of the body for functions that provide no biological
    purpose other than pleasure, it is a failure of self discipline totally at
    odds with the example the Master gave us of a being totally in command of his
    physical being.
    homosexuality negates the self sacrifice and negates personal and quite
    natural religion.

    I'm not debating. I'm speaking what I believe to be the truth. I'm doing it
    with a civility you haven't mustered and a clarity we do not share.

    rich faussette



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