From: Richard McGough (richard@biblewheel.com)
Date: Sat Jul 26 2003 - 21:09:10 EDT
Hi Glen, I had written:
>>If we discover that ID is true, I have little doubt we could
>>dispatch the possibility of little green men with litte effort. If
>>ID is false, we have no need to. Your point is therefore mute.
>
To which you replied,
>How? You can't see God neither can you observe the little green men. What
>experiment could you logically do to disprove the existence of the green
>men? Logically, you can't prove a negative. ID is a worthless exercise for
>Christians because it doesn't tell us anything. It doesn't tell us if God or
>green men created us. If it was God, it doesn't tell us what God. Shoot,
>Muslims are using ID to bolster their theological claims. This entire ID
>excercise is an excercise in futility.
>
I'm right with you on this point Glen. I am really not very interested in ID and fine tuning as apologies for theism because I'm not interested in merely proving theism. For me, it is a colossal waste of time to argue for something 90% of the population already believes while making little if any progress in the proclamation of the Gospel. But I fell into this line of argument because of what appeared to me to be a "huge inconsistency" in your statement that the "evolution" of elements should be treated as essentially identical to the evolution of life. I still think my original argument is correct, viz darwinian evolution is largely speculative whereas we have precise *equations* to describe chemical evolution. Do you agree that this is a significant difference?
But concerning the little green men - my point was that if ID were established, I think we could easily marshal a huge array of aesthetic, philosophic, logical, historical and theological arguments for a universal God and against the little green men who themselves are creatures and could not have created themselves or effected fine tuning of the universe. Sure, those who refuse the light could continue to assert that they couldn't be *compelled* to believe because of little green men or whatever, and that's as it should be in God's moral universe. But the Light would still shine for all who would respond, as it shines now.
But in the end, none of this strikes me as a fruitful line of argument. That's why I delight in my calling to study the geometric structure of Scripture which opens the mind to immediately perceive the supernatural glory of God's everlasting Word.
Good talking Glen,
Richard Amiel McGough
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