RE: The Aphenomenon of Abiogenesis

From: Glenn Morton (glennmorton@entouch.net)
Date: Sat Jul 26 2003 - 13:38:37 EDT

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    Hi Richard, you wrote:

    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Richard McGough [mailto:richard@biblewheel.com]
    >Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:47 AM

    >But doesn't this contradict Howard's variation on my demonstation
    >of the Aphenomenon of Abiogenesis? What I mean is, Howard seems to
    >have asserted that ID-biogenesis and abiogenesis are on *equal*
    >evidental footing in that neither is based on scientific evidence.
    >Now you have corrected me by reminding me that ID-biogenesis
    >*does* rest on solid scientific evidence. This seems to leave
    >abiogenesis out in the cold. Is this correct? Is ID-biogenesis the
    >only game in town?

    Howard will have to answer for himself.

    >If we discover that ID is true, I have little doubt we could
    >dispatch the possibility of little green men with litte effort. If
    >ID is false, we have no need to. Your point is therefore mute.

    How? You can't see God neither can you observe the little green men. What
    experiment could you logically do to disprove the existence of the green
    men? Logically, you can't prove a negative. ID is a worthless exercise for
    Christians because it doesn't tell us anything. It doesn't tell us if God or
    green men created us. If it was God, it doesn't tell us what God. Shoot,
    Muslims are using ID to bolster their theological claims. This entire ID
    excercise is an excercise in futility.

    And for documentation, here is an ID guy arguing for little green men:

    "Behe's argument does not entail (as in logically compel) a theological
    conclusion because it is consistent with other explanations. For instance,
    perhaps some advanced alien race planted fully constructed, reproducing
    organisms on a hospitable earth some time in the distant past. In that case,
    someone other than God would have designed these features of the biological
    world. Sure, it's far-fetched; but it's possible. For this reason,
    intelligent design arguments in biology do not normally entail theistic
    conclusions even if many people suspect God is lurking somewhere in the
    background." Jay Wesley Richards, "Proud Obstacles & a Reasonable Hope,"
    Touchstone, July/August 1999, p. 29-32, p. 31

    glenn

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