Re: Clarification -- Re: Dawkins dissembles?

From: Dr. Blake Nelson (bnelson301@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Jul 17 2003 - 20:46:19 EDT

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    --- "Howard J. Van Till" <hvantill@chartermi.net>
    (SNIP)
    > > It seems to me that organizations like NAS,
    > Scientific American, PBS, etc.
    > > generally attract people of an atheistic leaning.
    >
    > Why should that be the case? Does it also say
    > something about the interests
    > of Christians? Why would theists be
    > under-represented?

    Well, lots of reasons.

    1. There has been for a couple centuries scientists
    who espouse and revel in the conflict metaphor and
    science is the way to banish the "superstition" of
    religion
      a. People who are anti-religious may well be
    attracted to fields that are thus portrayed as having
    meaning in a world without God (I was actually shocked
    when I read a book of interviews of physicists where
    some famous cosmologist said something to the effect
    that physics is the only field with any meaning and
    how great it was that every day he got to do this and
    he couldn't imagine how other people managed to get up
    in the morning if they weren't doing physics (being an
    atheist, it was the only thing meaningful to him and
    he was so myopic he apparently could not see how
    anyone other than physicists could have meaning in
    their lives).. ,
      b. in the modern era, there certainly have been
    many apostles of a very jaundiced view of religion,
    including Sagan, R.Dawkins, etc. who sell lots of
    books and further attract the anti-religious to
    scientism,
     

    2. There are, especially in the European tradition,
    anti-clerical tendencies in particular strata of
    societies from which people who go into particular
    fields or the academy. Anti-religious belief systems
    such as Marxism have been alloyed with scientific
    progress, attracting people who hold those views or
    come from that background into the sciences or the
    academy. Likewise, when someone like Freud is seminal
    in founding an entire discipline, it would not be
    surprising that those of like mind to Freud would be
    disproportionately attracted to the field (note, the
    focus is on the disproportionate attraction of the
    anti-religious, not the failure of christians to be
    interested in the field).

    3. The academy (where I imagine a disproportionate
    number of NAS members come from) has been stridently
    secular for some time for many reasons, including
    ideological, and philosophical. NAS members are
    largely the products of the academic system which
    actively serves to suppress religious faith at many
    schools. A good friend of mine who was an absolutely
    brilliant graduate student in German literature was
    directly told by a professor how astonished the
    professor was that the student was christian, because
    "he seemed so intelligent." In my experience this is
    quite a common opinion where religion is considered
    primitive, superstitious, and/or irrational.

    I don't know how someone can even have a passing
    familiarity with academic circles and not see an
    enculturated bias, which I do not think, from my
    personal experience, is generally based on a rational
    reflection on the issue.

    4. The pervasive anti-religiousness in the academy I
    think has a tendency to push christians away from
    graduate education, because they believe (rightly or
    wrongly) they are going to catch flak for their belief
    system from their professors and the students they are
    there with.

    5. While I think I have less to base this guess on, I
    think that people tend to put their emphases on what
    matter most to them. It may well be for someone like
    Sagan who finds meaning primarily in science that is
    where their treasure is, their focus, and such focus
    and work is likely to be recognized by success in the
    field and nomination to things like the Royal Society.
     I am not saying this is uniformly true, but I tend to
    think there may be a matter of different emphases in
    one's life in balancing competing interests and a
    serious commitment to religious belief does result in
    less time for other aspects of life or work.

    If I thought about it a little longer, I think I could
    probably come up with another handful of possible reasons.

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