Re: My point misunderstood (was Re: Clarification -- Re: Dawkins dissembles? )

From: Howard J. Van Till (hvantill@chartermi.net)
Date: Tue Jul 15 2003 - 20:52:08 EDT

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    >From: "Dr. Blake Nelson" <bnelson301@yahoo.com>

    > Howard, sorry you missed my point, I have tried to
    > restate it more clearly below.

    SNIP....

    > So, my point is not at all about intellectual hubris,
    > although sometimes that accompanies academics (being
    > one) IMHO. ;)

    OK, it could be a self-selection effect. That would be an interesting thesis
    to test.

    I had said:

    >> Given their informed judgment regarding
    >> the credibility of the
    >> scientific concept of evolution, and given that the
    >> example set by the
    >> majority of Christian theists entails a rejection of
    >> that informed judgment,
    >> these intelligent and well-informed persons are less
    >> inclined to join with
    >> the theists.

    Blake replied:

    > Sure, but this is just ignorance on the part of the
    > person using some christians to tar the whole belief
    > system and it is somewhat lazy not to follow up on
    > one's prejudices (which the opinion you described
    > above is if one believes it applies to all
    > christians.)

    Point well taken, but in this case, your "some Christians" turns out to be
    the majority.

    > I don't demonize atheists, per se, but many --
    > P.Atkins and R.Dawkins -- spring to mind are so
    > apparently ignorant about religious belief and so
    > virulently antagonistic, that it is hard to believe
    > their choices were made humbly.

    Atkins, Dawkins & the like deserve a good share of the criticism they get.
    But this whole discussion began with wondering, not about these obvious
    strident spokespersons, but the 93% of the NAS.

    I still say they deserve a fair hearing before assuming they are carbon
    copies (old expression) of Dawkins & Atkins.

    Howard Van Till



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