Re: Predetermination: God's controlling will?

From: Josh Bembenek (jbembe@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Jul 10 2003 - 17:52:42 EDT

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    Howard:

    “You have a right to ask the question your way, but my form of the question
    is, Why should we elevate those writings above others? Of course these
    writers had first hand experience of events that we know only by their
    reports and their interpretations. We, on the other hand, have experience of
    events and discoveries that they could not even anticipate. I'm advocating a
    level playing field.”

    My Reply:

    The answer to your question is that I feel that writers of the Bible were
    privy to more detail of God’s character through their experiences. Other
    religious writings are not devoid of truth nor perhaps accurate depictions
    of some of God’s qualities, but they are quite poor in relation to the
    bible. My personal experience + 3 interpretive methods confirms this. I
    have found interesting concepts in the writings of Bhuddism, Plato or the
    Bhagvad Gita, but the most accurate picture can be derived from biblical
    writings (and I think Biblical writings more accurately portray all the
    truths contained in other writings without the baggage of inaccuracies.) I
    also do not know what about morality, spirituality, or God we might have
    learned that would overturn their depictions of such issues. Science in my
    mind does not deal much with the main themes of the bible, such that
    revision is currently necessary.

    Howard:

    “We will have to agree to disagree here. I have no intention of trashing or
    neglecting the biblical text, but I no longer see warrant for isolating that
    text as the sole source/authority of my portrait of God. I see no reason to
    presume everything in the biblical text to be accurate, and I find
    extrabiblical material and post-biblical human experience to be essential.”

    Perhaps you can elaborate on what extrabiblical material (perhaps one
    example) illuminates your portrait, and how that has shown that the biblical
    text to express an inaccurate depiction.

    Josh

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