Re: [Fwd: Griffin #2]

From: Jonathan Clarke (jdac@alphalink.com.au)
Date: Sat May 26 2001 - 02:09:18 EDT

  • Next message: Robert Miller: "Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Griffin #2]]"

    george murphy wrote:

    > If they say, "No, C-12 atoms aren't intelligently designed" then they are
    > saying that God (the Intelligent Designer) didn't plan for C-12 atoms but they
    > just happened. This would be to surrender the doctrine of creation. If they
    > answer "Yes, they are intelligently designed" then they have intelligently
    > designed systems whose assembly can be explained (triple alpha process) in terms
    > of known physical entities & interactions without any reference to the
    > Intelligent Designer.
    > Such a scientific explanation has to take for granted the relative
    > strengths of the strong & EM interactions which in fact have to be "tuned" rather
    > precisely to allow C-12 to form but not immediately burn through to O-16. That
    > is one of the anthropic "coincidences" which can be used to argue for overall
    > cosmic design. But that's not the level of design IDers want.
    > In other words, it seems as if IDers answer either way, the game is up.
    > & of course that means (unless one wants to invoke a non-Aristotelian logic) that
    > the game is up whether they answer or not.

    MY thoughts exactly!

    Jon



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Sat May 26 2001 - 02:03:28 EDT