Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Griffin #2]]

From: george murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Thu May 24 2001 - 11:52:36 EDT

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    Moorad Alexanian wrote:

    > It is impossible for me to do science or just be a plain, ordinary human
    > being and not believe in a Creator. That is the tenure of my first sentence.

            This is your own self-understanding, with which I have no argument. It
    is clearly not the self-understanding of many other people, including a lot of
    competent scientists. & I think there's no compelling theological reason why it
    should be.

    > The statement I make is that the data for science is collected solely
    by non-human devices, viz. >mechanical, electrical, etc. Needless to say,humans
    design those devices, which are theory laden, >but the data itself is still
    collected by devices that do not include man as a "detector." Moorad

            1) Doesn't data gathered by naked eye (or ear &c) observations
    qualify? & even though astronomers seldom actually look through their
    telescopes, they do look at photos, CCD readouts &c.
            2) Theory doesn't just enter in the construction of instruments, but in
    inferences from the readings of instruments. As in my previous example, what is
    actually seen in a bubble chamber photo is swirly lines. The data usually
    reported, that certain reactions take place in protons-antiprotons collisions or
    whatever, requires a lot of theoretical inferences.

    Shalom,

    George

    George L. Murphy
    http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
    "The Science-Theology Dialogue"



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