Re: Unwillingness to listen

From: PHSEELY@aol.com
Date: Wed Jan 10 2001 - 02:02:21 EST

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    Allen Roy wrote:

    << You are assuming that the Bible NEEDS interpreting in order to make sense.
     In other words, the Bible cannot mean what it really says. You must change
     the meaning to fit whatever philosophies are in vogue at the time.>>

    But, what it really says is not what you are saying it says. You are
    changing the meaning to fit a philosophy that is in vogue at this time in
    certain evangelical circles.
     
     <<You are assuming that God would NEED to accommodate his revelation to the
    science/history of the times. It is the sciences/histories of the times
    which need correcting, not the other way around.>>

    Nothing I have said implies that I am assuming any such thing. But, you are
    assuming that God did not accommodate his revelation to the science/history
    of the times; and, the Bible does not say he did not do this. Your assumption
    is resting on your own extra-biblical philosophy.

    <<You are assuming that Greek science is the oldest philosophy where a
    spherical earth was ever conceived.>>

    I am not assuming it. There is evidence that prior to the Greeks people
    believed in a flat earth and there is no evidence that they did not.

    << Does the original Hebrew word [for firmament] as used in context
    throughout the Bible mean something solid?>>

    There is evidence that it does and no evidence that it does not.

    <<It says "waters" not "sea" above it. >>

    Gen 1:6, 7 speaks of "THE waters." This grammatically implies that the
    subject in verse 6 and 7 is the "waters" mentioned earlier; and the only
    "waters" mentioned earlier are the "waters" of the "Deep" in 1:2. The "Deep"
    is a translation of the Hebrew word for "sea." So, the waters in 1:6, 7
    which are above and below the firmament are halves of a sea. So, the Bible is
    _really saying_ there was a sea above the firmament; and Psa 148:4 implies it
    was still there in the time of David.

    Paul



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