>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Payne [mailto:bpayne15@juno.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:57 AM
>To: glenn.morton@btinternet.com
>Cc: bpayne15@juno.com; asa@calvin.edu
>Subject: Re: Creation Ex Nihilio and other journals
>I see absolutely no reason why God cannot intervene miraculously when He
>chooses, and allow natural means govern at other times. God can do it
>both ways if He so chooses. We pots do not have the option of telling
>the potter anything.
But the YEC pots are telling God what he should do. They are telling him
that he had to have a natural explanation (see Allen Roy's views of the
flood over the past few days, and thus they are saying that God didn't
intervene in Noah's flood). The YEC pots are telling the potter that he
can't possibly use radioactivity. The YEC pots are telling the potter that
he can't possibly have really created stars a long way away. The YEC pots
are telling the potter that there is no way that He could control chance to
use mutation in living systems. Oh no Bill, the YEC pots are full of
telling God what He must do.
>I imagine Ham and Hovind would be willing to proclaim that 'God caused
>the flood miraculously'. However, they are criticized - they are called
>"liars".
They are called liars when they misrepresent factual data. If they really
wanted to go around saying that the Flood was miraculous and no scientific
data was necessary to support the concept of a flood, then there would be no
need for them to ridicule scientific data. They could ignore it.
>
>> But the reason YECs don't do this is because they know that no one will
>> listen to them because even they themselves don't believe that God
>performed
>> the flood in a fully miraculous way. Thus these silly explanations of
>the
>> flood offered by YECs are nothing but evidence of their lack of faith
>in
>> God's miraculous powers.
>
>I agree with you up to a point. However, silly explanations are only
>man's attempt to explain what we do not understand. They should not be
>used as an excuse to lock God out.
When the YECs ties the infallible Word of God to their falsified ideas
(which you admit are man's attempt to explain) and then they act as if those
silly ideas are part and parcel of the Bible, they immediately make the
Bible false. They are the falsifiers of God's word.
glenn
see http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/dmd.htm
for lots of creation/evolution information
anthropology/geology/paleontology/theology\
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