Re: Unwillingness to listen

From: Allen Roy (allenroy@peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue Jan 09 2001 - 07:56:39 EST

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    From: <PHSEELY@aol.com wrote:
    > Allen wrote:
    >
    > << Yes, the Bible is the utmost metaphysical truth because we know we can
    > trust the God of the Bible to tell us the truth. >>
    >
    > You do not seem to be reckoning with the fact that you are interpreting
    the
    > Bible, and that your interpretation is not necessarily infallible.

    You are assuming that the Bible NEEDS interpreting in order to make sense.
    In other words, the Bible cannot mean what it really says. You must change
    the meaning to fit whatever philosophies are in vogue at the time.

    The only interpretation needed is in accurately transmitting the meaning of
    the texts from one language to another without adding to the meaning of the
    texts the philosophies of the interpreters. The inclusion of the
    translators philosophies into translations is espceially apparent when
    comparing various translations of the Bible. And that is why one needs to
    checK many translations and go back to the original langauges whenever
    possible to see if alternative interpretations are possible and better.

    >
    > You are also assuming that God would not accommodate his revelation to the
    > science/history of the times.

    You are assuming that God would NEED to accommodate his revelation to the
    science/history of the times. It is the sciences/histories of the times
    which need correcting, not the other way around.

    >
    > You are also reading Greek science into the OT if you read in a spherical
    > earth and modern science into the OT if you read out the solid firmament
    with
    > a literal sea above it.

    You are assuming that Greek science is the oldest philosophy where a
    spherical earth was ever conceived. You are assuming that translations are
    free from philosophical influence. Does the original Hebrew word as used
    in context throughout the Bible mean something solid? It says "waters" not
    "sea" above it. Just because the societies within which the patriarchs of
    the Bible lived believed in certain ideas, that does not mean that that is
    what the patriarchs belived also. After all, they believe in one God who
    had created the world and the universe, while their contemporaries worshiped
    many gods. Following your line of reasoning, the patriarchs really believed
    in many gods because that is what everyone else of the times believed, even
    though they wrote and spoke of only one. That is reading into the Bible
    what is not there.



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