Homo erectus genes in us

From: glenn morton (mortongr@flash.net)
Date: Thu Jun 22 2000 - 17:17:24 EDT

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    Many Christian apologists reject the notion that modern man has any genetic
    connection with the ancient hominids, such as Homo erectus. This is
    normally done based upon theological considerations in which they believe
    that modern man was created within the past 60-200,000 years ago. If the
    theological considerations are correct, then genetic data should show a
    genetic bottleneck, it should show no human genes which require longer than
    60-200,000 years of coalescence time (the time for mutations to create the
    present observed diversity in modern populations) and we should have no
    non-functional retroviral insertions in common with the Old World Monkeys
    and chimps. Modern observations falsify all these apologetical
    expectations. Below are some quotes from two articles which examine the
    genetics of primates. Each quote is relevant to the predictions made by
    apologists noted above.

    "The most recent common ancestor of the [beta]-globin gene tree is a
    sequence found only in Africa and estimated to have arisen ~800,000 years
    ago. There is no evidence for an exponential expansion out of a
    bottlenecked founding population, and an effective population size of
    ~10,000 has been maintained. Modest differences in levels of [beta]-globin
    diversity between Africa and Asia are better explained by greater African
    effective population size than by greater time depth. There may have been a
    reduction of Asian effective population size in recent evolutionary
    history. Characteristically Asian ancestry is estimated to be older than
    200,000 years, suggesting that the ancestral hominid population at this
    time was widely dispersed across Africa and Asia. Patterns of [beta]-globin
    diversity suggest extensive worldwide late Pleistocene gene flow and are
    not easily reconciled with a unidirectional migration out of Africa 100,000
    years ago and total replacement of archaic populations in Asia." Rosalind
    M. Harding et al, "Archaic African and Asian Lineages in the Genetic
    Ancestry of Modern Humans," Am. Journal of Human Genetics,
    60(1997):772-789, p. 772
    **
    "The expected TMRCA[time most recent common ancestor-grm] and also the ages
    of the mutations were estimated for each population as well as for the
    world data set. Estimating the TMRCA of the world data set gave a value of
    750,000 years with a 95% confidence interval of 400,000-1,300,000,
    encompassing all of the TMRCA values from individual populations." Rosalind
    M. Harding et al, "Archaic African and Asian Lineages in the Genetic
    Ancestry of Modern Humans," Am. Journal of Human Genetics,
    60(1997):772-789, p. 778
    **
    time to most recent common ancestor
    (Thousands of years)
    Population-> CAR GAM KEN MON NCN SUM PNG VAN UK WORLD
    TMRCA 470 840 830 1100 880 840 770 900 720 770

    Car-Central Africa--Gambian
    GAM West Africa
    KEN NE Africa
    VAN Vanuatu
    NCN Pacific NW of United States
    UK England
    PNG Papua New Guinea
    SUM Palembang, Sumatra, Indonesia
    MON Mongolia
    Rosalind M. Harding et al, "Archaic African and Asian Lineages in the
    Genetic Ancestry of Modern Humans," Am. Journal of Human Genetics,
    60(1997):772-789, p. 779
    **
            "Most of the findings of this population genetic analysis of nonfunctional
    [beta]-globin diversity are concordant with those of other studies. In one
    respect they differ, by suggesting that modern human populations carry old
    Asian diversity. Not unexpectedly, the estimated TMRCA of the [beta]-globin
    gene tree is ~800,000 years and the level of [beta]-globin diversity
    maintained over the last 800,000 years indicates Ne of ~10,000. The
    ancestral sequence for the total sample was found only in Africa. There is
    no evidence for an exponential expansion out of a bottlenecked founding
    population 200,000 eyars ago." Rosalind M. Harding et al, "Archaic African
    and Asian Lineages in the Genetic Ancestry of Modern Humans," Am. Journal
    of Human Genetics, 60(1997):772-789, p.779-780
    **
    TMRCA thousands of years
             Chimp-human split
                5 myr 4 Myr 7 Myr
    Ne=5000 480 340 410
    Ne=10000 690 580 770
    Ne=50,000 1200 1000 1500
    Rosalind M. Harding et al, "Archaic African and Asian Lineages in the
    Genetic Ancestry of Modern Humans," Am. Journal of Human Genetics,
    60(1997):772-789, p. 781
    **
    "Our conclusions from this study of allelic [beta]-globin sequences are
    that there has been substantial multidirectional global gene flow within
    the last 100,000 years and that modern humans have both African and Asian
    ancestry dating to >200,000 years ago. We infer an earlier evolution and
    dispersal out of Africa by the ancestors of modern humans than indicated by
    some interpretations of the fossil data and, therefore, inclusion in the
    ancestral gene pool of non-African population groups identified
    morphologically as archaic or pre-sapiens." Rosalind M. Harding et al,
    "Archaic African and Asian Lineages in the Genetic Ancestry of Modern
    Humans," Am. Journal of Human Genetics, 60(1997):772-789, p. 782
    **

    "The genomes of modern humans are riddled with thousands of endogenous
    retroviruses (HERVs), the proviral remnants of ancient viral infections of
    the primate lineage. Most HERVs [Human endogenous retrovirus's--GRM] are
    nonfunctional, selectively neutral loci." Welkin E. Johnson and Jon M.
    Coffin, "Constructing Primate Phylogenies from Ancient Retrovirus
    Sequences," Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci., USA, 96(1999):10254-10260, p. 10255

    "Endogenous retrovirus loci provide no less than three sources of
    phylogenetic signal, which can be used in complementary fashion to obtain
    much more information than simple distance estimates of homologous
    sequences. First, the distribution of provirus-containing loci among taxa
    dates the insertion. Given the size of vertebrate genomes (>1 x 10^9) bp)
    and the random nature of retroviral integration, multiple integrations (and
    subsequent fixation) of ERV loci at precisely the same location are highly
    unlikely. Therefore, an ERV locus shared by two or more species is
    descended from a single integration event and is proof that the species
    share a common ancestor into whose germ line the original integration took
    place." Welkin E. Johnson and Jon M. Coffin, "Constructing Primate
    Phylogenies from Ancient Retrovirus Sequences," Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci.,
    USA, 96(1999):10254-10260, p. 10255
    **
            "Second, as with other sequence-based phylogenetic analyses mutations in a
    provirus that have accumulated since the divergence of the species provide
    an estimate of the genetic distance between the species. Because, for any
    given provirus it is highly unlikely that there will be selection for or
    against any specific seuqence, it is safe to assume that the rate of
    accumulation of mutations approximates the rate of their occurrence, with
    appropriate corrections for reversion. Analysis of closely related
    proviruses integrated at different sites should also reveal regional
    differences in mutation rates.
            "Third, sequence divergence between the LTRs at the ends of a given
    provirus provides an important and unique source of phylogenetic
    information. The LTRs are created during reverse transcription to
    regenerate cis-acting elements required for integration and transcription.
    Because the mechanism of reverse transcrition, the two LTRs must be
    identical at the time of integration, even if they differed in the
    precursor provirus. Over time, they will diverge in sequence because of
    substitutions, insertions, and deletions acquired during cellular DNA
    replication." Welkin E. Johnson and Jon M. Coffin, "Constructing Primate
    Phylogenies from Ancient Retrovirus Sequences," Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci.,
    USA, 96(1999):10254-10260, p. 10255
    **

    Integration time estimates
     Locus Age of mutation Last common ancestor
                                      Old world Monkeys/apes
    HERV-D(C4) 36.8 Myr 31 Myr
    HERV-K(HML6.17) 32.3 Myr 31 Myr
    RTVL-1a 44.8 Myr 31 Myr
    HERV-K18 5.7 Myr 4.5 Myr
    RTVL-Ha 6.7 Myr 4.5 Myr
    Welkin E. Johnson and Jon M. Coffin, "Constructing Primate Phylogenies from
    Ancient Retrovirus Sequences," Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci., USA,
    96(1999):10254-10260, p. 10259
    **
            "The genetic distance between the 5' and 3' LTRs of an ERV reflects
    mutations accumulated since the time of integration and should therefore be
    proportional to the age of the provirus. HERV-KC4, HERV-KHML6.17, and
    RTVL-1a are found in both OWMs and hominoids, which are estimated to have
    last shared a common ancestor over 31 million years ago. By contrast,
    HERV-K18, RTVL-Ha, and RTVL-Hb are found only in humans, chimpanzees, and
    gorillas, which are thought to have diverged around 5 million years ago."
    Welkin E. Johnson and Jon M. Coffin, "Constructing Primate Phylogenies from
    Ancient Retrovirus Sequences," Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci., USA,
    96(1999):10254-10260, p. 10259
    **

    The above data absolutely falsifies the idea that humanity had no genetic
    relationship to Homo erectus and the more ancient primates. Like it or not,
    we Christians need to deal with this data.
    glenn

    Foundation, Fall and Flood
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