Hi ASA
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From: glenn morton <mortongr@flash.net>
To: <PHSEELY@aol.com>; <adam@crowl.webcentral.com.au>
Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: Methane in the late Archean
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <PHSEELY@aol.com>
>To: <adam@crowl.webcentral.com.au>
>Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:06 PM
>Subject: Re: Methane in the late Archean
>
>
> > Adam wrote
> >
> > << As is a necessity when pre-modern psychology states our thoughts are
in
>our
> > hearts, that the Earth is flat, that the Sun moves around us, that hail
>has
> > storehouses like the winds, and so forth...
> >
> > I think Glenn's scenario tries to get geo-history straight but I'm not
>sure
> > his hermeneutic works when faced with all the other pre-scientific
>trappings
> > of Scripture. Do we defend the rising of the Sun to guarantee the
rising
>of
> > the Son?
> > >>
> >
> > Right on.
>
>The analogy isn't even close. Do we allow every miracle in the Bible
except
>the crucifixion to be false and then think that the Bible is true? I
won't.
>
>
>glenn
>
But we're not even talking miracles when we talk about the opinion of the
Ancients about Eden, Cain vs Abel, Nephilim, Flood and Babel... where do we
stop believing??? There are plenty of Jewish "legends" that surround all
those "events" and Orothodox Jews believe them. Who are we to disagree? By
what measure do we decide what must be defended as History and what must be
considered erroneous???
Did you know that Jude quotes a prophecy from the "Book of Enoch"? We're
talking about a multi-million year prophecy if your scenario is true. If
Jude, brother of Jesus, could be wrong on a historical attribution then who
else in the NT is wrong??? Jesus quotes Deutero-Isaiah as being Isaiah, and
"Moses"... was he wrong? Or merely human in his understanding like his
fellow Jews? Josephus believed a whole load of weird things about the Bible
and its formation and they were the beliefs current in his day. If JC truly
became flesh then surely he would've been as limited as his fellow Jews -
and if he sought to correct them would he have killed the Gospel with
disputes over authorship?
It's these sorts of considerations of the Bible's own history that led me to
reject a naive one-to-one map of Bible to History - BUT I don't deny that
there MUST be some historical nucleus. But what details do we retain and
what do we dump? Take Jonah... there was a prophet and a city, but was there
a fish and quick-growing vine? Was there a pre-Diluvial humanity who lived
for centuries??? 3 million Jews who walked out of Egypt? Or are these
misunderstood figures that originally were much smaller?
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