DNAunion: Pantrog has just stepped up his harassment/assault on me, which he
has been waging across the internet for months. I feel it is time for me to
defend myself.
This post deals with one Pantrog. Different people know him by different
names, and many, by multiple names. You may know him as one or more of the
following:
Pantrog
Pangloss
Huxter
Scott L. Page
IamNoOne
RandomMutt
Hand???FromYour???
I have done some "statistical analysis" on Pantrog's posts at MetaCrock's
discussion site and have found a trend I very much expected. Though I may
have lost count along the way, and one of the numbers may be off by a post,
here are the totals I came up with when I looked through all the posts at the
site to see just how Pantrog's posts fell into certain categories.
Pantrog's posts directly against/insulting/ridiculing DNAunion: 29
Pantrog's posts to Pat against/insulting/ridiculing DNAunion: 4
Pantrog's posts to MetaCrock against DNAunion: 2
Pantrog's posts against/ridiculing ARN (Moderator or in general): 8
Pantrog's other posts: 3
I count a total of 46 posts for Pantrog, of which only 3 did not deal with
either me or ARN. We could look at summaries as follows:
Pantrog's posts against/insulting/ridiculing DNAunion: 35 (76.09%)
Pantrog's posts against/ridiculing ARN: 8 (17.39%)
Pantrog's other posts: 3 (6.52%)
Or more to the point:
Pantrog's posts against/ridiculing DNAunion and/or ARN: 43 (93.48%)
Pangrog's other posts: 3 (6.52%)
Now I ask you, what is Pantrog's primary purpose in posting at MetaCrock's?
To discuss science? No - it is to attack me, personally, and ARN, as the
93.48% figure indicates.
In fact, here are the first several posts by Pantrog at the MetaCrock site,
dating from 08/25/2000 to 08/29/2000. As one can see, he did not start
discussing science and then get sidetracked. Nope, he immediately ganged up
with Pat and "jumped in on me". THAT seems to be his purpose in posting at
MetaCrocks - not to discuss science, not to become enlightened, not to
enlighten, etc., but to cause as much trouble for me as possible (this trend
of his is no exception - this is pretty much his course of action across the
internet).
Again, note his lack of interest in any real topic - posting here is merely
another chance for him to get his digs in on me and ARN.
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http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=60.topic&index=17
08/25/2000 11:34 am (retrieved 04/11/2001 at 08:07 pm, post unedited by
Pantrog at that time)
Pantrog: oh my - what would your hero Mike Gene think!?
My goodness - DNAunion comes to a new board to pout and spew - whats the
matter? Getting tired of patting Mikey's back all the time? Pat is right on -
you don't know what you are talking about....
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http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=60.topic&index=27
08/27/2000 10:17 am (retrieved 04/11/2001 at 08:18 pm, post was unedited by
Pantrog at the time)
Pantrog: careful Pat - DNAunion has a dictionary...
... and isn't afraid to use it! Oh wait - it isn't a disctionary - it was his
undergrad psychology text. You know, psych text books are the only place one
can find REAL definitions of words.....
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http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=60.topic&index=28
08/27/2000 10:20 am (retrieved 04/11/2001 08:00, post was unedited by
Pantrog at the time)
Pantrog: DNaunus [ß-Pantrog frequently used this mangled form of my name]
does what creationists do best...
THE QUOTE GAME!!!!!
I was simply commenting on your double-standards. Poor wittle DNAunion gonna
cwy to momma......
What a chump....
By the way - when are we going to see YOUR many epiphanies in print somewhere?
NEVER?
LOL!!
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http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=60.topic&index=47
08/29/2000 08:58 am (retrieved 04/11/2001 at 08:16 pm, post was unedited by
Pantrog at that time)
Pantrog: All of what you say is pointless - but...
... you've got to prop up your baseless ideology, don't you!
You are the most predictable, simplistic nit I've encountered.
By the way - have you sent in your amazing pro-ID epiphanies to a reputable
journal yet?
LOL!!
And I am not Pat.....
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http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=60.topic&index=48
08/29/2000 09:02 am (retrieved 04/11/2001 at 08:12 pm, post was unedited by
Pantrog at that time)
Pantrog: spoken like a true creationist
DNAunion: Please, I'll take both of you on at once, with both arms tied
behind my back. [In response to Pat's statement to Pantrog about me, "I'd
appreciate it if you let me have him for a few more rounds; I'm not quite
finished with him yet."]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Pantrog: Gee, Gish couldn't have said it any better! Better yet, why don't
you really 'take us on' and submit your amazing ID science to peer review.
Until you do, all you are doing is spewing your anti-materialistic gibberish.
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http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=60.topic&index=49
08/29/2000 09:13 am (retrieved 04/11/2001 at 08:22 pm, post was unedited by
Pantrog at that time)
Pantrog: all those ad homs....
Dnanus[<--Pantrog frequently uses this mangled version of my name]: Now, go
check it out. Can't, can you. Because anyone on the internet can pretend to
be whoever and whatever they want to - like a person I know named Pat who
claims to be a scientist. Too bad her statements just don't live up to her
supposed credentials.
Pantrog: Too bad DNAnus is ashamed to tell us all about her credentials and
instead feels the need to insult others. Of course anyone can say anything
they want about themselves. Funny thing is, when I was asked what my
publications were on the ARN board - asked in the 'belief' that I would do
something like you did and/or in the hope that I was just an armchair genius
like you and Mike Gene - after I posted them I was accused of 'showing off'
and trying to intimidate the poor publicationless ID advocates. I emailed
them to Tom24 after he had done the old 'I don't belive you even are in
college' type crap. His response? He accused me of arguing from authority!
Can you imagine? Well, you can, I suppose....
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essage?topicID=60.topic&index=50
08/29/2000 09:26 am (retrieved 04/11/2001 at 08:10 pm, post was unedited by
Pantrog at that time)
Pat: Let's see... You have a history of getting mad and becoming personally
abusive when someone disagrees with you, and you want me to go to a forum
where you control the microphone.
Sure. In effect, you just called me "stupid" again. You have the choice of
dealing with me in an open forum, or not. Up to you. If you don't like
name-calling, just stop doing it. Simple as that.
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Pantrog: Indeed - he tends to spend more time pointing out perceived ad homs
than addressing issues. I noticed this early on at ARN and stopped wasting my
time trying to have in-depth discussions over there. Too much mental
masturbation followed by bragging about how well they lay pipe over there,
but I go back now and then. Oh - DNA has made a couple of posts directed at
you over there..... I suspect that if you don't reply, he will boast and
strut about another 'scared' anti-IDer....
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DNAunion: So from the very beginning of his posting at MetaCrock's, Pantrog
had it out for me. And that trend continued from day one till his last posts
there.
But is not the case for me. When I started posting at MetaCrock's I did so
the discuss science, exchanges thoughts, debate, enlighten, and to become
enlightened. I will show this towards the end of this post. First, I want
to make another point.
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