Re: Eight respects in which evolution is neither intelligent *nor* random

From: DNAunion@aol.com
Date: Mon Dec 04 2000 - 18:50:18 EST

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    >>>Chris Cogan: ...

     I would guess that one reason some bacteria seem to produce more genetic
     variations when they are in an insufficient-nutrient environment is that
     the nutrients required to stabilize the DNA-replication process are in
     short supply, and so it does not work as well, thus permitting more than
     the usual amount of genetic variation to occur. Some would like to
     attribute this increased variation to intelligence, but the simple
     reduction in stabilization due to the lack of certain nutrients is a much
     more elegant hypothesis because it does not require the introduction of
     otherwise unseen intelligence, and because it automatically links the
     reduction in nutrients to the increase in variation. Further, it lends
     itself to empirical testing, whereas the ID alternative does not, except in
     special cases.

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    DNAunion: FYI, Here is some information on adaptive mutations.

    "In 1988 Cairns et al. showed the specificity of those mutation events. They
    showed that a specific mutation will occur in high frequencies only when
    needed to remove the selective pressure, i.e. during a selection for that
    mutation and not in other stressful conditions, and that the former
    selection, which triggers the specific mutation, does not trigger other
    mutations. Cairns et al. concluded that those mutation were adaptive, i.e.
    that the bacteria somehow mutate in order to adapt to the selective pressure.
    These experiments and the conclusions triggered a furious debate in the
    biological community and led to various additional experiments. The latter
    ruled out several more conventional interpretations, and showed the active
    role of the bacteria in the events of adaptive mutations (for details see
    Ref. and references therein). " ((Prof. Eshel Ben-Jacob, School of Physics
    and Astronomy, Raymond & Beverly Sackler Faculty of Exact Sciences, Tel-Aviv
    University, Tel-Aviv 69978, ISRAEL,
    http://star.tau.ac.il/~inon/wisdom1/node4.html#SECTION00040000000000000000)

    HOWEVER...

    "Researchers first noticed this happening in 1988 when John Cairns, then at
    Harvard University, showed that mutation rates in the bacterium Escherichia
    coli increased when the microbes needed to evolve new capabilities in order
    to survive changes in their environment. At the time, it seemed that only
    those genes directly involved with the adaptation changed, and this idea of
    adaptive or directed evolution caused quite a stir.

    But then last year, molecular geneticist Susan Rosenberg at Baylor College of
    Medicine in Houston and her colleagues showed that mutation rates increase
    throughout the genome, although only in a subset of the population. Another
    group also found that more than just the relevant genes changed." (How the
    Genome Readies Itself for Evolution, Elizabeth Pennisi, Science, vol 281,
    Number 5380, Issue of 21 Aug 1998, p1131-1134)

    DNAunion: So we are back to "adaptive" mutations being non-directed and
    random.



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