Re: muliplte persona alert!

From: DNAunion@aol.com
Date: Tue Oct 03 2000 - 22:21:04 EDT

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    >>Huxter: Be wary of imposters and posters using mulitple names to appear to
    have support - nucacids and DNAunion appear to be the same person, and it
    also
    appears that 'Mike B. Gene' may be making a comeback under a different name.
       
    >>>DNAunion: Huxter is spewing nothing but unsupported "gossip". Where's
    your evidence that Nucacids and I are the same person? Totally absent.
     
    >>Huxter: The reasonable reader will notice that I said 'appear to be', not
    is.

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    DNAunion: And the reasonable reader will notice that you gave the
    sensational warnings *"Alert!"* and *"Be wary"* (I guess I was supposedly a
    dangerous person of some kind!) and then began talking about *"imposters"*
    immediately followed by your mentioning of my name explicitly. And after
    such extravagant "warnings" to everyone here, you have to go back and eat
    your words!

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    >>Huxter: You should at least admit that you have posted on the Metacrock
    board under at least 3 different names, did you not?

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    DNAunion: How would that be at all relevant to the site here? The question
    is, have I posted under multiple names here? The answer is no, despite your
    insinuations. The other question on the table is, have I posted under
    multiple names at ARN? The answer to that is also no, despite your
    insinuations. Of the several hundred posts I have made at ARN, every single
    one was done under DNAunion.

    And how many other names have you posted under at OTHER sites, "Huxter"?

    Warning! Alert! Be on the watch! Keep your eyes peeled! It appears that
    Huxter has been posting under the aliases Pantrog and IamNoOne at other
    sites! Be wary of such deceitful and underhanded tricks, like Huxter may
    have done. Huxter also may be a felon, may have robbed a bank, may have
    atheletes' foot, may have nasty gum disease because he may not brush his
    teeth, may suffer from extreme bad breath, and may have toenail fungus!

    The careful reader will notice that I said MAY in each instance of my counter
    sensationalist alert. Is that how it works Huxter? Implications and
    insinuations are fine, as long as one refrains from actually making the
    statement as fact? I'll remember that when next we exchange messages.
       
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    >>Huxter: The ARN discussion board was shut down in part due to the fact that
    ID
    advocates were posting under multiple identities ...
      
    >>DNAunion: Nope, more unsupported "gossip" by Huxter. The ARN moderator
    began logging IP addresses after the assertions were made and instructed
    those posting that it was against the rules to post under multiple names, and
    that anyone found doing so would be prevented from posted at ARN. No one was
    prevented from posting there, thus, the evidence points to no one posting
    under multiple names.
     
    >>Huxter: This is demonstrably false. 'Jimmy' and 'Ecko' are/were the same
    person.

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    DNAunion: Nope, my statement is not demonstrably false. My statement was
    that no one was prevented from posting at ARN because he or she was found to
    be posting under multiple names - that is demonstrably TRUE. I then stated
    that this evidence POINTS TO the conclusion that no one was posting under
    multiple names. Funny how you pay so much attention to the small print in
    your own statements, but totally overlook it in mine!

    By the way, you yourself show your above statement to be wrong. Don't worry,
    I'll make sure to point it out later.

    >>Huxter: 'Ecko' admitted in an email posted on Meta's board that he has
    been posting at ARN all along under a different name.

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    DNAunion: Was this in the putative e-mail from Ecko that Pantrog posted at
    Meta's board? Pretty flimsy evidence. Anyone could make up an e-mail saying
    whatever he/she wanted to, type in the opponent's name (which by the way, the
    typist despises), then claim it was received from that person. As gullible
    as you are Huxter, I sure hope you are never on a jury!

    Now, if you have something from Ecko himself - his own words posted where
    everyone can see them, and not some putative personal e-mail - then that
    would be different. Which is it? I know of only the supposed e-mail. In
    fact, I asked Pantrog to support the alleged authenticity of the e-mail and
    he could not.

    Oh, by the way. Does Ecko post at this site? If not, then how is he in the
    least bit relevant? And how is Meta's board in the least bit relevant? Why
    do you make such sensational and grand warnings about someone who does not
    even post here, or about alleged goings on at another site? You just like to
    stir up trouble, don't you Huxter.

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    >>Huxter: Using a different computer or internet service will alter the ISP
    address. By the way - did it not occur to you that after the moderator had
    posted the warning that the multi-persona posters might have been more
    cautious?

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    DNAunion: I see, so you are now claiming that the alleged unscrupulous
    people that were supposedly posting under multiple names became more cautious
    and cunning and began posting from different computers (remembering which
    computer was associated with each of their names). More unsupported "I have
    a gut feeling" gossip, huh Huxter.

    By the way, you as much as admit above that by their supposedly being so
    sneaky, that they were not caught. If they were not caught, then posting
    under multiple names would not have been part of the reason the ARN board was
    suspended! (This is the part I said I would point out - where you contradict
    yourself).

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    >>Huxter: In aqddition, the person posting as 'frank', 'tom24', bndfngr, and
    a few others were all the same person. I know this for a fact since I
    corresponded with him on several occasions.

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    DNAunion: And this was instrumental in the suspension of the ARN discussion
    forum becauseā€¦.? When was the last time Frank, Tom24, and/or Bndfnger posted
    at ARN? Furthermore, why was he not mentioned by IamNoOne and his
    co-conspirators when the discussions of multiple names came up at ARN?
    Sorry, but that person was not responsible in any way for the ARN board's
    being suspended.

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    >>DNAunion: And even if someone were to have been doing so, that single
    person would have been banned (as the trouble maker Pantrog was) - the whole
    board wouldn't have been shut down (you don't think things through, do you
    Huxter?).

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    DNAunion: Why didn't you respond to this point of mine Huxter? Speechless?
    Confounded by the pure logic?
     
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    >>Huxter: DNAunion, you don't read for comprehension, do you? You just read
    to find a snippet that you can twist to prop up your self-righteous
    gibberish. A competant reader would have seen that I said 'in part'. Please
    read for comprehension, not sound bites.

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    DNAunion: Huxter, you don't think clearly, do you? As any competent thinker
    could see, posting under multiple names was not even "in part" responsible
    for ARN's discussion group suspension. What was "in part" responsible - and
    indeed, a major factor - was the *implications* (by people like you - or was
    it actually you?) that people at ARN were doing so - it was not the supposed
    act, but the discussions centering around the alleged act that tied up the
    board in useless bickering that led to the discussion forum's being
    suspended.
      
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    >>Huxter: .. which, big surprise, heaped accolades on each other (which
    were in fact themseves!).
      
    >>DNAunion: Nope, yet more "gossip" by Huxter. I complimented Mike Gene
    several times on his ability to pinpoint the flaws in his opponents'
    position, and I complimented Nelson (I believe it was) for pointing out the
    idiocy of someone's implication that I was a Creationist. Sorry Huxter, but
    I am neither Mike Gene, Nelson, Jimmy, nor Ecko (as Pantrog and IamNoOne
    incorrectly claimed at ARN), nor am I nucacids here.
       
    >>Huxter: I find it even more amusing that you call the implication that
    you may be a creationist to be 'idiocy.' I have observed your posts on
    several boards and on here for some time. It is clear that you do indeed use
    creationist style argumentation, whether or not you can see it.

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    DNAunion: So give us one valid piece of evidence that shows I am a
    creationist. Can't? Didn't think so!

    You people just like labeling as Creationists everyone who doesn't agree
    fully with methodological (or philosophical) naturalism. You do so to win
    some quick, underhanded, and easy "discredit points". Just four little words
    - "You are a creationist" - and your opponent is automatically labeled as
    scientifically incompetent (the other common ploy is to *strongly insinuate*
    that the opponent is a Creationist without actually coming out and saying
    it). After this dirty little tactic, you no longer have to even address the
    opponent's position: just wave it off as "Creationist distortion".

    Sorry, Huxter, but the label falls off me every time someone like you
    attempts to stick it on me. You will have to address my points head on.
     
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    >>Huxter: I cannot wait until 'WWUSIAC' or 'ARNORG' or 'veutron' 'start'
    posting to this list!

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    DNAunion: And I can't wait until Pantrog and IamNoOne (which may be other
    names you post under) begin posting here!

    By the way, I have never posted under the name of veutron. More of your
    unfounded and incorrect gossip nonsense! Here you go - open your mouth wide
    and I will spoon feed you your own words - eat up!



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