Re: Study Fuels Debate on Whether Birds Are Dinosaurs

From: Stephen E. Jones (sejones@iinet.net.au)
Date: Mon Aug 14 2000 - 17:48:12 EDT

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    Here are excerpts from web articles for the period 21 July - 9 August 2000,
    with my comments in square brackets.

    Apologies if some of the Kansas articles have been posted before.

    Steve

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    http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000809/sc/dinosaurs_dc_1.html
    Yahoo! ... August 9 ... Study Fuels Debate on Whether Birds Are
    Dinosaurs ... WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A close look at the bones of
    dinosaurs suggests that some were very much like those of birds, scientists
    said ... in a finding sure to fuel the debate over whether birds descended
    from dinosaurs. Tiny little channels in their bones show that some
    dinosaurs grew bone quickly like birds do today, which suggests that at
    least some species of dinosaurs are related to birds, if not their direct
    ancestors ... "It doesn't necessarily prove that birds had to derive from
    dinosaurs," John Rensberger, a geology professor ... said ... "But, at least
    from the data we've seen, that appears to be a logical conclusion." The
    image of dinosaurs has been transformed in recent decades. Once believed
    to have been plodding and slow-witted, study of their fossilized remains
    now suggests they were closer to being hot-blooded, quick and organized.
    In other words, they acted more like modern birds and even mammals than
    like living reptiles such as lizards and crocodiles. But it is hard to tell when
    fossilized bone and perhaps a bit of mummified soft tissue is all there is to
    work with. Rensberger, along with Mahito Watabe ... sampled 500 pieces
    of bone and compared them to the bones of modern birds, as well as
    creatures ranging from kangaroos to squirrels. In all bones, little channels
    called canaliculi connect bone cells and blood vessels. These are organized
    differently in reptiles, mammals and birds. "In spite of their small diameters,
    canaliculi are often preserved in fossil bones ... They studied a group of
    dinosaurs known as coelurosaurs, a group of the theropods -- the two-
    legged, meat-eating dinosaurs such as Tyrannosaurus most commonly
    linked to birds. In the coelurosaurs, the canaliculi take random, circuitous
    routes, a pattern found today only in birds. One good example was a
    Gallimumus, a 17-foot (5-m) dinosaur whose name means "rooster mimic"
    and which had a beak. ... And in a group of dinosaurs called ornithischians,
    which include the child's perennial favorite Triceratops, the canaliculi look
    like those of modern mammals, with a direct and parallel pattern. ...
    Rensberger and Watabe also found evidence that bundles of collagen fibers
    holding the bone together are irregular both in birds and dinosaur fossils. ...
    "Right now, the thing that is closest to what we see in the bones of birds is
    in the bones of coelurosaurs" .... Other researchers have found evidence
    that both supports and contradicts this idea. In June, a group said they
    were certain that fossils of a small ancestor of dinosaurs called
    Longisquama insignis showed feathers. They said this suggested that birds
    evolved separately from dinosaurs. In April, a team ... found evidence that
    dinosaurs had the hearts of warm-blooded animals, which would again
    suggest they were more like birds or mammals than like reptiles. And in
    1999 researchers found a dinosaur fossil that looked like it had a
    diaphragm, which birds and mammals have but which reptiles do not. ...
    [More evidence that birds and coelurosaurs dinosaurs shared a common
    ancestor?]

    http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-200083211833.htm ... August
    3, 2000 Creationists on Kansas school panel defeated ... THE
    WASHINGTON TIMES The defeat of three social conservatives in the
    Kansas primary for state school board has all but guaranteed repeal of
    science standards adopted last year to downplay Darwinian evolution. With
    the fall general elections, so-called "moderates" will make up the new
    school board's majority, and reversing the anti-evolution policy is likely to
    be its first order of business in January. "I think you'll see a vote to repeal
    that," said Val DeFever, a Republican school board member whose seat is
    not up for election this year. "We're going to go back to the pure form,
    which included evolution and reflected the national science standards." ...
    Meanwhile, he said, polls show that 47 percent of Kansans hold a
    creationist belief, and national polls still show large majorities say the ideas
    of evolution and creation both should be taught in public schools. "When
    it's talked about as choice or local control of schools, a lot of people agree
    with it," he said. "But when it's cast as embarrassment to Kansas, as it was
    in the media, people vote the other way." ... [It sounds like the Kansas
    public voted on fear of embarrassment, rather than what they actually
    believed. It will be an interesting debate when the new Board (and the
    public) finds what exactly is in those science standards! It might be Pyrrhic
    victory for evolutionists because it will give more opportunities for
    macroevolution's problems to be aired, and for the ID Movement to
    become more widely known to the public. ]

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment/nceditf2.htm USA Today ...
    08/03/00 ... Debate over evolution has not evolved ... It has been 75 years
    since the Scopes Monkey Trial lifted the debate over teaching evolution
    out of the primordial educational soup and into the American courtroom.
    All of the intervening years, however, have not yet produced a consensus
    on how to teach science in public schools. ... Now, Kansans can start
    contemplating solutions that accommodate faith without compromising
    science. ... Most Americans believe evolution should be taught. But they
    also think that, one way or the other, creationism should not be excluded
    .... That's reasonable. It's impossible to imagine a social studies course on
    ancient Greece that did not contain information about the prevailing beliefs
    about creation. If students can handle the idea that Athena jumped fully
    grown from the head of Zeus, they surely can handle a discussion about
    Judeo-Christian theories of the creation of life. Questions about
    creationism deserve to be answered respectfully wherever they are asked.
    And in a perfect world, every school would offer a comparative religion
    course in which creationism could be studied cleanly. Absent that, the
    solution is to find a balance that teaches science first. The education of
    faith, after all, is best delivered in the home or the church. ... [If "Judeo-
    Christian theories of the creation of life" were taught, it would have to
    include *all* major creation theories, including old-Earth/Progressive
    Creationist. But from the ID movement's perspective, the issue is not so
    much about teaching "Judeo-Christian theories of the creation of life" but
    about teaching evolution *honestly*, with all its philosophical assumptions
    and its many problems laid bare.]

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment/ncoppf2.htm USA TODAY...
    08/03/00 ... Evolution is religion By Tom Willis The decision by the Kansas
    State Board of Education (KSBE) not to require students to believe
    "macro" evolution generated enormous media coverage. Most of what I
    have read has been uninformed and untrue. The typical claim is that the
    debate is one of "science vs. religion," evolution being 'science." If
    evolution were defined as mutations and adaptation, it would be science. ...
    Karl Popper, the world's most revered philosopher of science stated
    emphatically: "It is important to note that evolution is not science. It is a
    metaphysical research program." Michael Ruse ... recently stated that
    evolution is a religion and always has been. .... The standards the board
    rejected were largely from the National Academy of Sciences, which
    consists of only 517 scientists in relevant fields, 72% of them atheist. Those
    standards treated all theories as tentative except evolution. They would
    have required students to believe they descended from pond scum, that
    evolution created everything in the cosmos, and that science can be done
    only if you "understand" evolution. .... KSBE never promoted creation or
    religion. It succinctly stated four obvious truths: Science is tentative; it
    should not be taught dogmatically; students should not be required to
    believe theories; evidence and logic unfavorable to popular theories should
    not be censored from students. Tom Willis is president of the Creation
    Science Association for Mid-America. ... [Willis is paraphrasing Popper,
    who actually said, "it is therefore important to show that Darwinism is not
    a scientific theory, but metaphysical." (Popper K., "Unended Quest, 1982,
    p.172). For what Ruse actually said, see tagline.]

    http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/opinion.pat,opinion/3774a282.726,.html
    The Kansas City Star ... 07/26/00 ... Did the state writing committee really
    believe, when it equated religious values with "superstition," "mystical
    inspiration" and "myths" in its draft, that the faithful wouldn't rise up out of
    their chairs? .... Where did we get the idea that those of faith teach bad
    science? The debate is really about Darwinism and natural selection being
    the last word on origins. As biochemist Michael Behe contends, recent
    developments under the electron microscope reveal this possibility to be
    passe. While some aspects of evolutionary theory -- such as microevolution
    -- should, and will, endure, Darwin belongs at the end of the shelf along
    with the other 19th-century thinkers, Marx and Freud. Intelligent design
    theory, the alternative to natural selection, is actually a cousin to Thomas
    Aquinas' teleological argument. However, while inferring intelligence, it
    attaches no name, personality or creed to that intelligence. It may well be
    the portal to the next great age of discovery, and students need to be
    conversant in its particulars. At the symposium sponsored by the Intelligent
    Design Network, a classroom exercise was described where Texas students
    were assigned to research both evolution and intelligent design for a week
    in preparation for a debate. On the day of the debate, they were divided
    into two groups, only learning then which point of view they'd have to
    defend. After the debate, they wrote critiques of their and the opposing
    group's performance. This resulted in their scoring near the top on
    assessment tests in the biological science area. It worked there. Kansas
    students deserve no less. ... See also:
    http://www.wichitaeagle.com/news/elections/docs/boe0802web_txt.htm ...
    The Wichita Eagle ... August 2, 2000 ... All three moderates had vowed to
    change the standards if elected. "There's no doubt in my mind... one of the
    first actions we'll take in January when the new board takes over would be
    to reverse the science standards," said Janet Waugh... The move was
    widely reported in the national media and frequently ridiculed by late night
    television comics, who often incorrectly characterized it as a ban on the
    teaching of evolution in Kansas. ... National media returned to report on
    the state's Board of Education races, which struck candidate Rupe as ironic
    in light of the low voter turn-out. ... [It will be interesting when the new
    Board discovers that the proposed standards included a claim that
    "religious values" are in the same category as "myths" and "superstition" -
    see http://www.cjnetworks.com/~barfield/science.htm. Combine this with
    Ruse' admission that "Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular
    religion -- a full-fledged alternative to Christianity..." and it should be clear
    to everyone, that they are just another expression of "The Established
    Religious Philosophy of America" (Johnson P.E., "Reason in the Balance,"
    1995, p.39)].

    http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/home.pat,local/3774a6cc.802,.html ...
    Pro-evolution candidate wins education board primary ... The Kansas City
    Star ... 08/02/00 ... Holloway, 50, a former teacher who also lives in
    Shawnee, said she had been portrayed as an extremist since the board's
    vote on evolution. "Unfortunately, propaganda still works," she said. ...
    The board's vote on evolution -- the theory that living things share common
    ancestors but have changed over time -- gained international attention, with
    journalists from Japan and several European countries journeying to
    Kansas to cover the commotion. The vote also reopened a national debate
    over science and religion. A set of standards the board rejected, written by
    a 27-member committee of Kansas science teachers, would have included
    evolution as a cornerstone of science. The six board members who voted to
    downplay evolution in the standards cited, in part, their hesitancy to include
    information that would go against some students' religious beliefs. The
    current board is split ideologically. Generally, the two camps are divided
    between moderates, who support present public educational policies
    stressing accountability, and conservatives, who think that those methods
    have failed and that Kansas needs a change of course toward more choice
    and competition in education. ... But the fight isn't over by a long shot,
    promised conservatives. This is an ongoing battle, and the conservatives
    made inroads by even suggesting that evolution be optional in school, said
    John Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego.
    "There's a resentment of the education elite. I think that's an undercurrent
    that's undersold," Morris said. "The creation message is getting out better
    than ever. It will never go back to the way it was, when people go back to
    doing what the education elite say. Never again." ... [Morris is right. The
    evolutionists are winning the battles but they might be losing the war.]

    http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/08/02/kansas.evolution.01/index.html ...
    CNN ... Kansas voters suggest change in evolution teaching ... The theory
    of evolution -- developed by Charles Darwin, among others, and supported
    by most scientists -- holds that the Earth is billions of years old and that life
    forms developed over hundreds of millions of years. Creationism maintains
    that evolution cannot be proven and that the Earth and most life forms
    came into existence suddenly about 6,000 years ago, largely as described in
    the Bible. Kansas just the latest skirmish The evolution supporters may
    have won this latest high-profile battle, but in Kansas -- a highly
    conservative, highly religious state -- no one thinks the war is over. "It
    certainly won't resolve the issue," said David Penny, one of a small, but
    vocal group of anti-evolution scientists. "And if it's not here, it'll be
    someplace else." ... See also
    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/evolution000802.html ...
    ABCNEWS ... Rejected Kansas Voters Turn Back Candidates Who Back
    De-Emphasizing Evolution .... The theory of evolution, developed by
    Charles Darwin and other thinkers, holds that the Earth is billions of years
    old and that life forms developed over hundreds of millions of years.
    Creationism maintains that evolution cannot be proven and that the Earth
    and most life forms came into existence suddenly about 6,000 years ago,
    largely as described in the Bible. ... [Note the stereotypical defining of
    "evolution" so it can hardly be false and "creationism" so it can hardly be
    true! If evolution is true, why does it need such propaganda to support it?
    As Johnson said: "It is the way the Darwinists argue their case that makes
    it apparent that they are afraid to encounter the best arguments against
    their theory. A real science does not employ propaganda and legal barriers
    to prevent relevant questions from being asked, nor does it rely upon
    enforcing rules of reasoning that allow no alternative to the official story."
    (Johnson P.E., "The Wedge of Truth," 2000, p.141)]

    http://helix.nature.com/nsu/000727/000727-1.html Nature Science Update
    ... 21 July 2000 chemistry : Life's cycle? PHILIP BALL Does life have to
    be this way? Perhaps - a new study claims that reactions at the heart of
    human metabolism might be the only way for an organism to derive
    chemical energy from its surroundings. Deep down, little green men might
    be the same as us. The inevitability, or otherwise, of life's form and
    functions is one of the big issues debated by evolutionary biologists. ...
    Simon Conway Morris of Cambridge University, UK, say that life can exist
    only in a limited number of forms. Those who cleave to the latter point of
    view will take some comfort from the new report in the Proceedings of the
    National Academy of Sciences USA ... Metabolism converts food and
    nutrients into energy and essential molecules. ...the modern-day metabolism
    of autotrophs and heterotrophs now uses a sequence of chemical reactions
    called the citric acid cycle. People and animals burn sugars in the citric acid
    cycle to produce energy ... the citric acid cycle is a very ancient and
    fundamental component of metabolism. Harold Morowitz ... and his
    colleagues now ask whether the sequence of steps in the cycle is inevitable
    .... To answer the question, the researchers sifted through a database of
    three and a half million organic molecules. Using a computer, they looked
    for ways to convert carbon dioxide and water to citrate, via molecules that
    incorporate only carbon, hydrogen and oxygen atoms. Using simple rules
    to identify suitable intermediate molecules, they narrowed the huge
    database down to a shortlist of just 153 molecules, which included all 11
    compounds involved in the actual citric acid cycle. Although this does not
    quite show that the citric acid cycle is the only conceivable way for
    autotrophs to metabolize, it is clear that the 11 chosen molecules are far
    from a random selection. And the shortlist of molecules crucial for
    metabolism could get smaller still. The researchers chose only some of the
    most obvious `selection rules'; others might winnow the options down.
    Morowitz' team say that this is an indication that the chemistry of life is
    "necessary and deterministic and would characterize any aqueous carbon-
    based life anywhere it is found". [The citric acid cycle is fundamental to life
    as we know it. If it turns out that: 1) *only* these 11 complex molecules
    can carry out the functions found in the CAC and 2) all 11 compounds are
    necessary of the CAC to function at all; then this more strong evidence for
    intelligent cause in the origin of the CAC. It would also be strong evidence
    that life on Earth is unique in the whole universe.]

    http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000806/sc/planets_discovery_dc_1.ht
    ml Yahoo! ... August 6 ... Astronomers Say Eight New Planets Detected
    LONDON (Reuters) - International teams of astronomers said ... they had
    discovered eight new planets outside our solar system. Five of the new
    planets were detected in the Southern Hemisphere ... None of the planets
    have ever been seen by humans, but scientists believe they are there
    because of the gravitational pull they exert on the stars they orbit and the
    subsequent detectable effect they have on the light the stars emit. One of
    the five planets ... made up part of only the second multi-planetary system
    ever found. The new multi-planet system consists of two Saturn-sized
    gaseous giant planets, HD 83443 b, which the scientists said they detected
    in May, and HD 83443 c, which they have just discovered. HD 83443 c is
    the lightest planet yet discovered weighing roughly half what Saturn weighs
    ... The planets circle the HD 83443 star, 141 light years away from our
    solar system in the Vela constellation. Only one other extra-solar multi-
    planetary system -- three planets around the Upsilon Andromedae star --
    had previously been detected ... The Geneva team also announced the
    discovery of a new planet in the Northern Hemisphere. The planet, which
    orbits the HD 190228 star 203 light years away ... A team of scientists
    based at the University of California, Berkeley, said they had found three
    new planets -- one orbiting the HD 92788, which was also identified by the
    Geneva team. All three planets were gas giants similar to Jupiter. In
    another discovery, the Berkeley scientists found that multi-planetary
    systems might be more common than was previously thought. ... The new
    planetary discoveries bring the number of potential extra-solar planets to
    about 50. See also:
    http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000804/sc/space_planet_dc_1.html
    Yahoo! ... August 4 ... International Team of Astronomers Finds New
    Planet LONDON (Reuters) - A team of international astronomers said on
    Friday they had discovered a new planet in a nearby solar system. The as
    yet unnamed planet orbits the star Epsilon Eridani, the closest star to Earth
    which has a circling planet and is bright enough to be seen with the naked
    eye. ... "Not only is this planet nearby, it lies 478 million km (297 million
    miles) from its central star -- roughly the distance from the sun to the
    asteroid belt in our own solar system," ... The distance between the planet
    and its star opens up the possibility that there could be Earth-like planets
    closer to Epsilon Eridani -- in a zone that Cochran said might be habitable.
    ... They estimate that the new planet, one of several expected to be
    announced during the assembly, is bigger than Jupiter, the largest planet in
    our Solar System. It is made up mostly of gas and its eccentric orbit lasts
    just under seven years, about 60 percent as long as Jupiter's. Astronomers
    consider stable orbits, like those of the Earth and other nearby planets, an
    important factor in the development of life. ... The new planet is the 41st to
    be discovered outside our solar system recently. ... [All of these extra-solar
    planets are too large and AFAIK none of their orbits are circular, both of
    which is necessary for life as we know it. More evidence that life is unique
    to Earth?]

    http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/space/07/31/pulsar.age/ CNN ... Pulsars
    'lying about their age,' ... July 31, 2000 ...Pulsars, superdense neutron stars
    that emit rotating jets of intense radiation, could be much older than
    originally thought. The scientific discovery could force astronomers to
    reexamine basic assumptions about the universe, according to a team of
    scientists. For decades scientists have used pulsars as a benchmark to make
    a variety of scientific conclusions in astronomy and particle physics. The
    only problem is that pulsars have been "lying about their age," said
    astronomers ... One pulsar thought to be 16,000 years old more likely is
    between 40,000 and 170,000 years old, ... "This means that much of what
    we thought we understood about the physics of pulsars and neutron stars
    may be wrong," .... Neutron stars, considered the densest objects in the
    universe, provide important physical tests for a basic understanding of
    matter. Yet "much of this theory is based on a believe that we could
    accurately estimate their ages. Our research indicates that these objects
    may be 10 times older than we thought. This could force much
    reevaluation," .... Scientists for years determined the approximate age of a
    pulsar by measuring the rate by which a pulsar's rotation period slowed.
    But Gaensler and others, determining the age of a pulsar 15,000 light-
    years away through another technique, found the traditional method well
    off the mark. Plotting the path and speed of the pulsar from the center of
    the remnant of the supernova that created the pulsar, the scientists figured
    that it must be at least 3.5 times older than previously estimated. ... [It will
    be interesting if this holds up and forces a re-think of the age of the
    universe. If pulsars are further away, this may mean the universe is
    expanding faster, which might mean it is younger than previously thought?]
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    "Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
    Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion -- a full-fledged
    alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality. I am an ardent
    evolutionist and an ex-Christian, but I must admit that in this one complaint
    -- and Mr. Gish is but one of many to make it -- the literalists are absolutely
    right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning,
    and it is true of evolution still today." (Ruse M., "How evolution became a
    religion," National Post, May 13, 2000.
    http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife.asp?f=000513/288424).
    Stephen E. Jones | sejones@iinet.net.au | http://www.iinet.net.au/~sejones
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