>>>and 3) points
>>>out that Glenn is wrong about this fossils's muscle insertions
>>>being uniquely Neandertal.
>
>>I call upon Glenn to live up to the high standards of conduct
>>that he enjoins on other Christians, and publicly retract his
>>baseless allegations about Dr Stringer. It would be nice if
>>Glenn also retracted or moderated his claims about the OoAH and
>>this fossil's muscle insertions.
>
>I will double check on this.
Stephen has called me to retract or moderate my claims about the OoAH and
the fossil's muscle insertions. I already stood corrected about STringer's
views and freely acknowledged it in the note of that day (Mon, 28 Jun 1999
21:09:04 -0500 ). And I did double check on the muscle insertions. I
e-mailed Trinkaus today and got a reply (which I won't crassly post in its
entirety without Trinkaus's approval). He told me that the thoracohumeral
muscle insertions are not totally diagnostic but are supportive of
Neanderthal ancestry. However, he did state that there is a clear
"difference particularly in the development of the pectoralis major
insertion on the humerus". This difference is found among Neanderthal
children as well as adults. Thus this muscle attachment is diagnostic of
Neanderthal ancestry.
The article clearly notes this on the child:
"The left humerus has clear diaphyseal torsion and a prominent ridge along
the pectoralis major insertion leading up to the anterior greater tubercle.
There is rugosity for the pectoralis major attachment, and the ridge
creates a marked intertubercular sulcus and an anterolateral to
posteromedial elongation of the diaphyseal cross section." Cidalia Duarte,
Joao Mauricio, Paul P. Pettitt, Pedro Souto, Erik Trinkaus, Hans van der
Plicht, and Joao Zilhao, "The Early Upper Paleolithic Human Skeleton from
the Abrigo do Lagar Velho (Portugal) and Modern Human Emergence in Iberia,"
Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci, USA, 96(1999):13:7604-7609.
have had Neanderthal parentage.
So, Stephen, I have done what I expect other apologists to do--that is,
check the data and ensure that they are correct and on firm ground.
glenn
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