> Tyler: It is interesting to see evolutionists calling fellow evolutionists to account for their lapses towards 'direction', 'internal drive', or 'purpose'. Maybe the reason biologists find this conc> shed is more than cultural baggage - maybe they find the indications of design compelling!
>
> Pim: Wishful thinking perhaps?
Maybe! Perhaps said with tongue in cheek.
Pim: "Furthermore without an understanding of how these terms were
used, it is too easy to confuse them with ID. Perhaps it is the hopes
of design proponents which make them inte> "
Perhaps you would like to suggest reasons why Darwinists, who hold so
strongly to the stochastic character of mutations and of
environmental pressures, find it so easy to drop into terminology
that is better suited to an intelligently engineered world.
> Tyler: The Christian contribution is to point out that man's fallen state has affected his thinking.
>
> I guess we have an explanation for YEC'ism after all?
Maybe Christians wanting to pursue this could dig into Francis
Schaeffer's writings. He brings an emphasis on the fallen mind which
many other Christian philosophers lack.
> Tyler: The philosophy of naturalism is the choice of people who are in a state of alienation from God.
>
> As is YEC'ism. Ironic... But even more not a very useful concept in science either.
Surely my comment above is non-controversial to naturalists -
although they might express it differently (e.g. they might say
they are alienated from the concept of God).
> Tyler: These philosophical roots then permeate the intellectual trees that grow up from them. The Christian has a different foundation: our thinking is to be rooted in Theism and the cosmos we stu>
> I fail to see how such "understanding of faith" can add anything to science. Personally I see the unnecessary mixture of religious faith and science to be the downfall of both.
It is part of the metaphysical infrastructure - and the overall
effect is beneficial to all disciplines of knowledge, including
science. I'll aim to develop this further in my response to Glenn
Morton (not yet written).
Best regards,
David J. Tyler.