Ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth
shall make you free. John 8:32
Ron Chitwood
chitw@flash.net
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> From: Donald Howes <dhowes@ansc.une.edu.au>
> To: Glenn R. Morton <grmorton@waymark.net>; evolution@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: Evolution!!
> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 7:49 PM
>
> I'm getting confused, I don't know about everybody else, but are we
talking
> about micro or macro change? If it is micro, then within genetic bounds
> natural selection does indeed promote certain traits. I was under the
> impression that the bacterium with antibiotic resistance was a case of
> this. The one's that had it survived, and are now the dominant strain.
The
> same is true of hair and skin(I don't know about the cholesterol thing).
>
> The question about the fruit fly is a macro one. Is it possible to mutate
a
> fly past the point of being a fly?
>
> The period of time is difficult to comprehend. Human intervention can
make
> changes much faster than the would happen in nature, the differnce
between
> a Great Dane and a Chihuahua shows that, as most breeds of dog have only
> come into existance in the last few hundred years.
>
> With the fruit fly, they aren't trying to stay within any bounds, they
are
> trying to make it evolve into something else, using every method know to
> induce mutations. This means that in every generation many times the
number
> of mutations occur compared with in nature. So the chances of seeing a
> positive mutation is drastically increased.
>
> The other thing that might be interesting to note is that a lone mutation
> may not be enough, for a mutation to not be lost, there may have be two
of
> the same mutation in two different animals, at the same time in the same
> place, so that the new trait can be carried.
>
> I confess that I can hardly get my mind around all this, so I may be way
> off track.
>
> Donald
>
>
> At 06:04 AM 14/07/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >At 11:07 PM 7/13/98 -0600, Bill Payne wrote:
> >>But in the time allotted, we have _zero_ beneficial mutations. Faith
is
> >>the evidence of things not seen - you have your faith, we have ours.
> >>:-)
> >
> >Bill, exactly why is antibiotic resistance not beneficial to a
bacterium?
> >
> >Exactly why is a mutation in an Italian family that makes them immune to
> >bad cholesterol not beneficial?
> >
> >Blond hair appears to give protection against frostbite. Exactly why is
> >that mutation not beneficial in the northern part of Europe?
> >
> >Black skin appears to give some protection against ultraviolet rays and
> >helps prevents melanoma. Exactly why is this not beneficial in the
tropics?
> >
> >And the sickle cell gene gives some protection from malaria if it is
> >heterozygous. Are you saying that it is better for more people to die
from
> >Malaria than for fewer people (the homozyous) to die from sickle cell
> >anemia? If it saves lives in a malaria infested environment, exactly why
is
> >it not beneficial?
> >glenn
> >
> >Adam, Apes and Anthropology
> >Foundation, Fall and Flood
> >& lots of creation/evolution information
> >http://www.isource.net/~grmorton/dmd.htm
> >
> >
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