Re: Glenn wrote: a clarification

Greg Billock (billgr@cco.caltech.edu)
Thu, 21 May 1998 08:12:30 -0700 (PDT)

Glenn,

> After a nights sleep I want to add something to what I said last night.
> Burgy said, "If someone digs up Noah's bones, I will be delighted. If someone
> demonstrates evidence that Noah is a myth, it will not be traumatic to
> me. "
>
> To me if Noah is a myth, then Luke 3:36 drew Jesus' genalogy through a
> mythical person. What is the difference between this and the emporer of
> Japan drawing his genealogy from the Sun God? I don't believe that the Sun
> God fathered a Japanese Emporer and if Noah was mythical, I don't believe
> that he fathered anyone either. And if Noah is mythical then why are not
> those who preceded him, including Adam?
>
> I don't believe that the genealogies have to be complete, but IMO they have
> to be true or Jesus is a Japanese Emporer.

But it also says Adam was the Son of God. Who is God's consort? How
long was the Asherah in labor with Adam? These things are meant
mythically (or figuratively) in my opinion, and one can accept them
perfectly happily as mythological statements without forcing them to
correspond precisely to physical fact.

For example, it seems clear in the account that the flood is a cosmos-
deconstructing affair, in which the waters which the ancients believed
surrounded the earth were loosed and the universe (as they knew it)
dissolved back into primordial chaos, with the Ark a bubble of salvation.
(It also seems clear that their notion of what the universe consisted
of was limited to their own 'land' and did not encompass the whole planet.)
Triage on the historical facts destroys the mythological significance.
I suppose it is up to everyone to decide which is the meat of the story.
Looking at the stories of other cultures, it seems inescapable that
the mythological aspect of the story is the primary message.

Another part of the debate is the recent (post-Enlightenment) use of
analogy to talk about God (and spiritual matters generally). Previously,
analogy was taken as revealing, but not definitive. That is, for
example, being the ancestor of someone was an analogy that need not be
literalized. Now, we tend more to insist that our religious analogies
are factually definitive, and one becomes the father of another by
participating in conception and physical birth resulting. (This is
developed in more detail in Placher's book _The Domestication of
Transcendence_, which I'm reading now.)

-Greg