Re: Raindrop impressions

Joel Duff (virkotto@intrnet.net)
Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:58:43 -0600

At 06:13 PM 1/27/98 -0600, Ron Chitwood wrote:

>So, what you are saying is, given certain conditions, fossils happen today.
> By far the majority of animals that die succumb to normal scavenger
>principles. Example: there are no fossilized passenger pigeons of Bison
>although they flourished in the 19th century. Certain conditions, such as
>a flood, do produce fossils and those less ambulatory would fall first,
>then the more ambulatory on higher grounds much like the 'evolutionary'
>evidence for 'columns' that current textbooks picture.

Mr. Chitwood,

I know how tempting this last explanation might seem but I think that beyond
the images that current textbooks picture is an obviously more complex
situation. I just find that in this case some YE advocates are too willing
to accept the simple scenes depicted. Two examples of problems with the
"less ambulatory would fall first" come immediately to mind. First, too
follow up Glenn's comments on dinosaurs there is that added problem that
dinosaurs came in a multitude of sizes and yet they are not sorted by size
at all. Why aren't the smallest found higher in the geological column?

Second, these flood hypotheses almost completely ignore the fossil record of
plants. Why is it that there are no gymnosperm and angiosperm fossils in
much of the fossil record. Very simple, herbaceous plants are the first
found followed by the lycophytes, sphenopsids, and other polysporangiophytes
many of which were arborescent. The tree-like lycopods nearly disappear
before the first gymnosperms and angiosperms (flowering plants) show up most
of which (the ones preserved anyway) were rather diminutive plants. Why
does the sorting of plants not exhibit any pattern with respect to the size
of the plants involve but give the appearance of evolution of seed plants
from non-seed plants which in turn came after the first appearance of
primarily gametophytic organisms. The sudden appearance of some pollen
types not present in "older" rocks is also difficult to explain in a global
flood scenario since it is unlikely that sorting hypotheses can be employed
in these cases.

Regards,

joel duff

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