RE: Big crunch idea on universe exploded

Scott Rauch (jdavita@netrax.net)
Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:29:43 -0500

Stephen,
I like Kevin Koenig have been "eavesdropping in on this discussion." I have
included a short Bio. on who I am at the end of this post.
On Sunday, January 11, 1998 4:42 PM, Stephen Jones [SMTP:sejones@ibm.net]
wrote:

> Here is yet another study which concluded that the Universe will
> expand forever. This means that as far as the empirical evidence
> goes, this is the only Universe that has ever existed.

I don't see the article saying that there could have been only one big
bang, just that this is the last one. I think it would be in keeping with
conservation of mass and energy (if even that is required) in postulating a
universe that repeatedly banged until "it got it right", that is the
balance between energy and mass was just right. This would not be the
egregious multiple concurrent universes (whatever meaning concurrence has
between universes). Is this a valid argument that could be used?

Bio Section:
I include the following not only because I want everyone to know where I am
coming from, and want help dealing with my recent paradigm shift, but also
because the page, "About the evolution@calvin.edu group" recommends, "I do
want to encourage everyone on the list to communicate something about who
they are and what their particular interest in evolution or origins comes
from."
Ok. First of all, I am a hydraulic engineer, working for a company where we
design and manufacture hydroturbines. About a year and a half ago, I was a
firm special creationist. I am now a believer in evolution; not even sure
if God is required. In 1995, Glenn Morton wrote to Stephen Jones about
Stephen's provisional acceptance of common descent (as quoted by SJ Sunday,
January 11, 1998 5:16 PM), "I know exactly how difficult a paradigm shift
like that is." Well, let me tell you, the shift is absolutely devastating.
I'm still struggling with all this. I still hold some anger because I
believe the evangelical Christian community did not properly prepare me for
the creation/evolution debate. They gave me a gun loaded with blanks, and
sent me out. I was creamed.

Scott Rauch (jdavita@netrax.net, www.netrax.net/~jdavita)

One should not attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, AND
one should not attribute to stupidity what can be explained by ignorance.
(Wesley R. Elsberry in Talk.Origins Jargon,
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/jargon/jargon.html)