Re: Testimony

Russell Stewart (diamond@rt66.com)
Thu, 05 Jun 1997 14:43:27 -0600

Bill said:
>Pim responded
>
>>Does it ? If you followed someone who you believed was a savior and then
>>in the end you find out you wasted your time and effort ? Not only hard on
>>one's own psyche but also one is left with the problem that if the truth
>>ever becomes known many others might lose faith in their religion just
>>because of one fraudulent act. One is then faced with the problem to
>>expose the fraud or to perpetuate it.
>
>If the stakes aren't too high, I grant that this can happen. But all of
>the apostles except for John were executed for their faith, by crucifixion
>(I don't know if all were crucified, but some were), a very slow, painful
>method of execution.

Perhaps they were more afraid of the consequences of their followers realizing
that they had been deceived. And by the time they had been caught and were
going to be executed for their faith, it was too late.

>Later, and possibly in the first century also,
>followers of Christ were burned -- also a very fearsome, painful method of
>execution.

So it is your contention that Christianity is a valid belief system because
many people were passionate enought about it to die for their beliefs?
Once again, this brings us back to the same question: considering how many
people have died for other religions, do we conclude that pretty much every
religion that has existed has been historically accurate?

>If the stakes were just saving face at the expense of a little
>ridicule or maybe even a prison term, Pim's argument might have some
>plausibility.

However, if the stakes were the risk of being stoned or lynched by an angry
mob who just discovered that they had been deceived, then Pim's argument has
a great deal of plausibility.

>But most people would draw the line far short of being
>crucified or burned, unless they were totally convinced they were standing
>for the truth.

Or unless they thought they could get away with it.

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