Re: Testimony

Pim van Meurs (entheta@eskimo.com)
Thu, 05 Jun 1997 17:50:10 -0400

Pim van Meurs quoted Jim Bell:
>Jim: How about #2? It has been suggested that the four Gospel writers
>engaged in a mendacious scheme, but no motive has been given. Why not?
>Because it defies
>common sense.
>
>
Pim responded

>Does it ? If you followed someone who you believed was a savior and then
>in the end you find out you wasted your time and effort ? Not only hard on
>one's own psyche but also one is left with the problem that if the truth
>ever becomes known many others might lose faith in their religion just
>because of one fraudulent act. One is then faced with the problem to
>expose the fraud or to perpetuate it.

Bill: If the stakes aren't too high, I grant that this can happen. But
all of

If the stakes are not high enough it might not have happened.

Bill: the apostles except for John were executed for their faith, by
crucifixion
(I don't know if all were crucified, but some were), a very slow, painful
method of execution. Later, and possibly in the first century also,

Even more a reason to lie after all their faith might have been stronger
than the faith of the many other believers. Allowing them to know the
truth could have set back the religion for centuries or even destroyed the
religion.

Bill: followers of Christ were burned -- also a very fearsome, painful
method of
execution. If the stakes were just saving face at the expense of a little
ridicule or maybe even a prison term, Pim's argument might have some
plausibility. But most people would draw the line far short of being
crucified or burned, unless they were totally convinced they were standing
for the truth.

Perhaps they felt they stood for the truth but were hiding the nasty
incident of a Jesus which was not resurrected in fear it would destroy the
faith of many ?

Pim