Re: Logic makes a comeback: morality and materialism

Russell Stewart (diamond@rt66.com)
Tue, 03 Jun 1997 08:19:10 -0600

>>At what point does consciousness begin in a human?
>
>Russell- Are you implying that people who are not conscious are candidates
>for a killing(or should be)?

I mean consciousness in the larger sense -- that is, self-awareness. And
of course I believe that non-self-aware beings have fewer rights. I kill
cockroaches or bacteria without impunity because I know that they are not
self-aware.

So the question is, if a sperm and an egg are not intelligent, self-aware
beings in their own right (at least, not any more than a bacterium), then
at what point do the combination of the two give rise to intelligence and
self-awareness?

>In attempt to answer your question I give
>the following. I read to my son before he was born. At 7 months he would
>start kicking around in the womb when he heard my voice after coming home
>from work. And for bragging purposes he was 10 lbs at birth. Have you
>ever seen fetuses dodge needles in the womb? I dont know where to start or
>begin.

OK, so perhaps self-awareness starts late in the pregnancy, like around the
third trimester. This is why most doctors will not perform third-trimester
abortions unless it's for the safety of the mother, and I agree with that.

Now, what about an earlier pregnancy? For example, do you believe that a zygote
only fertilized two or three weeks ago is a conscious, self-aware being yet?
And if so, how is that possible for something that doesn't even have a
recognizable
brain yet?
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