Re: design: purposeful or random?

Gene Dunbar Godbold (gdg4n@avery.med.virginia.edu)
Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:40:01 -0500 (EST)

According to Stephen Jones:

> >SJ>I am not aware that "Wilder-Smith" or "Gish" actually say that
> >"evolution" is "in violation of the second law of thermodynamics".
> >I would invite Brian to post where he or Yockey claims they do. In
> >his chapter "Creationist Theory: Popular Evolutionist
> >Misunderstandings", Ratzsch says:

[snip]

> BH>Gish, D. T. (1989). In a discussion of the origin of life on
> >radio station KKLA, Los Angeles, CA, on 29 June, 1989 with Dr. H.P.
> >Yockey, Dr. Gish repeatedly insisted that evolution was in
> >contradiction of the Second Law of Thermodynamics in spite of
> >my explanation to the contrary.
>
> Gish does not say in any of his books that I have that "evolution"
> is "in violation of the second law of thermodynamics". He says much
> the same thing as Wilder-Smith above. Here is what Gish said in
> 1993:
>
> "In order for low entropy complex organized systems to be produced,
> at least four conditions must be satisfied:
>
> 1. The system must be an open system;
>
> 2. All adequate outside supply of energy must be available;
>
> 3. An energy conversion system must exist to convert the raw,
> uncontrolled energy coming in from the outside to a controlled form
> that can be utilized in a constructive way by the system undergoing
> change;
>
> 4. There must be a control system capable of regulating the activities
> of the system undergoing change, such that the changes are progressive
> and integrative rather than meaningless and destructive."
>
> (Gish D.T., "Creation Scientists Answer Their Critics", Institute
> for Creation Research, El Cajon CA, 1993, p177)
>
> Since Yockey got Wilder-Smith wrong, I assume he misinterpreted what
> Gish was trying to say, espcially in the heated atmosphere of a
> radio interview.

I heard Dr. Gish speak at UNC several years ago in a debate with a Biology
professor from Fayeteville, NC. I remember him saying the same thing that
Brian is alleging--that the second law of thermodynamics prohibits
evolution. I remember being rather dismayed at the time, because I
thought he was doing rather well until then.

Gene
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