Re: How long must we wait?

Glenn Morton (grmorton@gnn.com)
Fri, 06 Dec 1996 22:21:41

>How long, Glenn? Until the data reaches a conclusory peak. That's how science
>works, and you know it.

When will that be, 24th 29th or 99th century? And NO you do not have it
correct about how science works. We do not wait for "conclusory peaks" what
ever those are. We make hypotheses and theories from the data we have at hand
now. When new data comes in we scramble to modify the old views. If you
worked in science you would know that. Maybe it is you lawyers who reach
conclusory peaks.

> You find overwhelming data in the rocks about an old
>earth. I agree. I'm not "waiting" on that one, though I remain open to
>evidence to the contrary. I'm an open minded kind of guy.
>
>But the theory of evolution is nowhere near the rocks in the data game. Good
>scientists will adopt "wait and see.

Let me ask the obvious question. What are your qualifications for determining
what good scientists do? I manage scientists; I know that your view is crazy.
If my geophysicists adopted a wait-and-see attitude until they had enough
data, I would fire them for not drilling wells. Similarly, if a professor
waits and sees, he will never publish a paper and will be denied tenure. And
you know what? Papers require conclusions and hypotheses. You can't have
hypotheses and conclusions by waiting and seeing.

>"True believers will ignore the problems,
>wave a magic wand (e.g., "imagined selective advantage") when the promlems
>intensify, and stomp around trying to get everyone else to agree. The
> heaviest stompers, like Dawkins, are beginning to look a little silly.
>

True believers come in two flavors, Atheists and Creationists who do not want
to deal with the facts.

By the way Jim, how do you explain the fact that no fossils of modern forms
are found deep in the geologic column? You didn't say anything about it.
Does this mean that you fit your definition of a true believer?

>You don't want to look silly, do you?
>

I did when I was a YEC, so it doesn't bother me.

>Did you know that the heaviest beer consumption, per capita, is in Texas?

When I moved down here, it was legal to drink a beer and drive. When you
threw the can out the windiw the only thing the cop could get you for was
littrin' as they said.
glenn

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