How long must we wait?

Glenn Morton (grmorton@gnn.com)
Thu, 05 Dec 1996 21:04:30

I want to add something to what I wrote in response to Russ Maatman's
question:

>So why can't we
>hold off a bit on the universality of the law of evolution in biological
>systems when there seem to be some anomalies? That is, why can't we adopt
>the tentative attitude some physicists had for a while concerning momentum
>conservation?

I found a very early statement of this take a tentative approach or wait and
see approach. In 1865, 617 scientists, members of the British Association of
Scientists, signed a manifesto. Two of the items in that manifesto are:

British Assocoation of Scientists 1865

"We are not forgetful that physical science is not complete,
but is only in condition of progress, and that at present our
finite reason enables us only to see as through a glass darkly, and
we confidently believe that a time will come when the two records
will be seen to agree in every particular."~cited in Samuel Kinns,
Moses and Geology, p. 5f. in Alfred M Rehwinkel, The Flood, (St.
Louis: Concordia, 1951), p. XVIII

British Association of Scientists 1865

"We believe that it is the duty of every scientific student to
investigate Nature simply for the purpose of elucidating truth, and
that if he finds that some of his results appear to be in
contradiction to the written Word, or rather to his own
interpretation of it, which may be erroneous he should not
presumptuously affirm that his own conclusion must be right, and
the statements of Scriptures wrong. Rather leave the two side by
side until it shall please God to allow us to see the manner in
which they may be reconciled; and instead of insisting upon the
seeming differences between Science and the Scriptures, it wouldmbe
well to rest in faith upon the points in which they agree."~cited
in Samuel Kinns, Moses and Geology, p. 5f. in Alfred M Rehwinkel,
The Flood, (St. Louis: Concordia, 1951), p. XVIII-XIX

I have several questions.

1. What is to be harmonized with Science, the Bible or our interpretation of
the Bible?

2. When will physical science be complete?

2a If never, does this mean that we can never draw conclusions and offer
theories? Will we always look though the glass darkly?

3. Considering the fact that the Israelites failed to recognize the power of
God in the wilderness, and that the religious Jews of the Roman era failed to
recognize Jesus, will the religious people of today or tomorrow be able to
recognize a solution to the scientific problem if that solution is not what
they expect?

3a. What would such a solution look like?

4. When do Christians become responsible for EXPLAINING the data rather than
informing everyone that the data does not mean what the evolutionist believes
it does?

For instance, below is the geologic column in North Dakota. It represents
rocks of all geologic ages piled up in proper order. But below the first 100
feet, there is not one fossilized living form of life. There are lots of
fossils but they are all different from those on earth today.

How does the young-earth creationist explain these "flood" layers in which no
modern forms are found? Rather then telling us why this doesn't mean
evolution, tell us how this fact fits into the Biblical account. Were the
animals in Noah's day (5,000 years ago) different from those today?

For a PC is there any reason why God waited unil the very last 100 feet to
create ANY living forms?

Tertiary Ft. Union Fm..........................100 feet
Cretaceous Greenhorn Fm ......................4910 feet
Cretaceous Mowry Fm.......................... 5370 feet
Cretaceous Inyan Kara Fm......................5790 feet
Jurassic Rierdon Fm...........................6690 feet
Triassic Spearfish Fm.........................7325 feet
Permian Opeche Fm.............................7740 feet
Pennsylvanian Amsden Fm.......................7990 feet
Pennsylvanian Tyler Fm........................8245 feet
Mississippian Otter Fm........................8440 feet
Mississippian Kibbey Lm.......................8780 feet
Mississippian Charles Fm......................8945 feet
Mississippian Mission Canyon Fm...............9775 feet
Mississippian Lodgepole Fm...................10255 feet
Devonian Bakken Fm...........................11085 feet
Devonian Birdbear Fm.........................11340 feet
Devonian Duperow Fm..........................11422 feet
Devonian Souris River Fm.....................11832 feet
Devonian Dawson Bay Fm.......................12089 feet
Devonian Prairie Fm..........................12180 feet
Devonian Winnipegosis Grp....................12310 feet
Silurian Interlake Fm........................12539 feet
Ordovician Stonewall Fm......................13250 feet
Ordovician Red River Dolomite................13630 feet
Ordovician Winnipeg Grp......................14210 feet
Ordovician Black Island Fm...................14355 feet
Cambrian Deadwood Fm.........................14445 feet
Precambrian..................................14945 feet
glenn

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