Re: Noll & Creationism (fwd)

Bill Hamilton (whamilto@mich.com)
Sun, 31 Dec 1995 07:11:45 -0500

I'm forwarding some comments on my review of Mark Noll's book, _The Scandal
of the Evangelical Mind_, which came from Howard Killion, a member of an
email forum sponsored by Gordon's and Howard's church. Godron asked me to
forward Howard's comments to the evolution reflector and forward comments
back to him. Since that could get rather tedious, I suggest that those who
respond to this post should simply copy Gordon (simons@stat.unc.edu).

><<Beginning of Howard's remarks>>
>At the risk of appearing like the new kid on the block with a motor mouth,
>I would like to offer a contribution in another direction. While I agree
>with much of what Mark Noll apparently has to say about the anti-
>intellectual tendencies in conservative American Christianity, I have
>reservations about his reported comments on creation science. Please note
>that I have not yet read Noll's "The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind" but
>only Bill Hamilton's review.
>
>As a relative newcomer to the debate between old- and young-earth
>evangelicals, I find name-calling instead of respectful dialogue the
>common practice. Noll does not make a positive contribution at this
>point. Bill Hamilton says that "Noll attributes the popularity of
>creation science to the intuitive belief of many evangelicals that it
>embodied the simple teachings of Scripture...." This is not acceptable
>language. The young-earth interpretation of Scripture is not merely
>intuitive. In making this claim Noll is echoing the unhelpful assertion of
>the American Scientific Affiliation and other old-earth advocates that the
>young-earth position is by definition unscientific, anti-intellectual, and
>fundamentalist. (See for example Roy A. Clouser, "Genesis on the Origin
>of the Human Race," Perspectives on Science & Christian Faith (published
>by the ASA), March 1991, pp. 2,4 7.) This is just as objectionable as the
>common young-earth proponents' accusation that the old-earth position is
>unscriptural.
>
>I would argue that the young-earth theory is quite plausible, and indeed
>is more plausible than the gap theory and localized Noah flood of the
>old-earth interpretation. I am not denying the Scriptural plausibility of
>the old-earth interpretation, but I think that it is the more difficult
>and complex biblical view.
>
>In 1994, simply for my own clarification, I wrote a think piece entitled
>"Thoughts on Creation & Evolution". I would welcome feedback on it and my
>comments above.
>
> THOUGHTS ON CREATION & EVOLUTION
>
>The controversy between old-earth evangelicals and young-earth
>evangelicals seems to boil down to this: Is the case for biological
>evolutionary theory (macroevolution) so compelling that it requires us to
>accept the complex and difficult interpretations of the Bible,
>particularly Genesis 1-11, necessary to accommodate it? Or is there a
>scientific alternative to biological evolutionary theory that is
>sufficiently plausible to justify the simpler and easier interpretations
>of the Bible associated with the young-earth theory? It is propagandistic
>for old-earth evangelicals to call young-earth evangelicals
>"fundamentalists". Young-earth evangelicals should likewise avoid
>labeling their opponents' views as necessarily heretical. The next four
>paragraphs offer background.
>
>Definitions: Theology--Humanity's systematic attempt to understand God, and
>therefore the Bible. Science--Humanity's systematic attempt to understand
>the universe.
>
>The job of both fields is to discover, not invent, what is really there.
>Our interpretation of the Bible is only as valid as it approaches what God
>intended it to say to us when He caused it to be written. Our
>interpretation of the universe is only as valid as it approaches what God
>did in creating it and continues to do in sustaining it by His word of
>power (Heb 1:3; Col 1:17). The only difference between the natural and
>the supernatural is that the latter is God's activities in our
>space/matter/time continuum that we cannot yet describe by mathematics or
>by what we call "natural law". Just because we can describe some
>phenomenon by mathematics or natural law, we are not required thereby to
>exclude the orderly, willful activity of God in that phenomenon. This was
>the intellectual framework of the fathers of modern science (Francis
>Bacon, Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton). It was the naturalistic
>rationalists who by a huge leap of faith consigned God's activity
>exclusively to the "scientifically unexplainable". Thereby they fathered
>the so-called Age of Enlightenment.
>
>It is wrong to say that the Bible and science conflict--or agree, for that
>matter. Rather, we must say that theology and science agree or disagree.
>If there seems to be a conflict, our interpretation of the Bible could be
>wrong, our interpretation of the universe could be wrong, or both
>interpretations could be wrong. Truth, that is, accurate information,
>will tend to dovetail although sometimes conflict might stem from
>incompleteness of information rather than inaccuracy.
>
>It is arrogant of people to claim that their theology or science is
>exhaustively accurate. New insights and discoveries occur. However, it
>is equally foolish to believe that our limitations as humans leave us
>stuck in an existentialist fog without ability to cope in life. We do make
>reasonably accurate assessments about many probabilities. We do manage to
>make TV's, hunt mushrooms, ride on freeways and in planes, talk with one
>another, write books, form marriages and governments, raise children, and
>devise experiments and calculations. And a God who could make the
>universe, including us, could certainly devise a way to communicate with
>us with substantial accuracy. But He is not obliged to act in any
>particular way just to oblige our desire for truth. We discover; we do
>not insist. <<end of Howard's remarks>>
>
-Bill Hamilton

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