On Mon, 11 Dec 1995 09:28:35 -0500 you wrote:
>Roger Rafler writes
>
>>Now, as to the "mean-spiritedness" to which you referred in connection with
>>Gish's debates, I haven't yet detected a mean-spirited tone or manner in
>>Gish as he debated people, but I =did= detect it in an individual who was
>>once associated with ICR but who has since struck out on his own. Sometime,
>>I will have to share this experience with you in person. It's pretty bad!
>>But you never want to throw out the baby with the bathwater (if you can
>>catch my drift!).
>>
>You might want to look at the transcript of the discussion between Duane
>Gish and Hugh Ross on Focus on the Family (September 1993 I believe), which
>was in the talk.origins archives last time I looked. If by some chance
>it's not still there, I might be able to find the tape I made the
>transcript from or maybe the file I posted (for that matter dejanews may
>have it too). Here was Gish arguing with a fellow Christian on a
>nationally disseminated radio program and coming close to making a fool of
>himself in his desire to discredit him. It's not pretty.
I have a copy of your transcript Bill. It made its way to the
Australian Fidonet Creation vs Evolution echo! :-)
Funnily enough, I don't agree that Gish was "mean-spirited" although I
do agree he did not do very well compared to Ross. The transcript
reveals them (Dobson, Gish and Ross) all laughing together and they
finish on a note of Christian praise together.
This reminds me of a post I read about Johnson's RITB as being "full
of bile". When I read it, I thought Johnson was hard-hitting but
gracious. How we perceive people depends a lot on whether they agree
with us! :-)
If anyone wants me to email them the transcripts, please ask. If there
is sufficient demand I will post them to the Reflector.
BTW, I did not realise that Roger was on the Evolution mail Reflector.
I thought he was only on the ASA reflector?
God bless.
Stephen
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