Re: Fossil Man again

Stephen Jones (sjones@iinet.com.au)
Tue, 03 Oct 95 05:38:27 EDT

Group

On Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:23:04 -0400 you wrote:

GM>Sometimes, Stephen I think you only get half my messages.

Perhaps I don't get all Glenn's messages?

>Stephen wrote:
SJ>We were discussing Galileo, not Copernicus! :-)<<

GM>You missed where I wrote:

GM>The Galileo affair was all about
>the experimental data for the Copernican system.<<

Sorry to Glenn. I overlooked that. But I disagree that it was
the Galileo affair was *all about* the experimental data for the
Copernican system. It was more about Galileo's challenge to
Aristotelean philosophy and the RC Church's post-Reformation grip on
power.

>You wrote:
>GM>Even today there are some YEC's who hold to geocentrism...

SJ>Who are they? None of the major YEC books that I have read
>embrace geocentricism.<<

GM>Why do you quote what I say but delete the evidence I present and
>act as if I didn't put anything out there? This doesn't seem quite
fair. I never said that the guy I was quoting was a major YEC book
author. I said "today there are some YEC's who hold to geocentrism.
Then I wrote this.

I saw it and deleted it as not relavnt. The emphasis was on *today*.
The quote was in *1979*, ie. 16 years ago.

GM>In the June, 1979,
>Creation Research Quarterly, the first one I subscribed to, had a letter by
>Harry Akers which asked, "Surely Dr. Hanson is not seriously suggesting that
>we abandon the heliocentric model of the solar system in favor of a
>geocentric model of the entire universe!" P. 82
>To which Dr. James N. Hanson replied,
>"I surely am suggesting a geocentric model for the whole Universe.
>Specifically, one wherein the earth does not spin nor does it translate
>through space but is at the center of Creation just where the Bible puts
>it."p. 83<<

GM>Go look it up! But please quit asking me for evidence AFTER you
>carefully cut out the evidence I presented in my quotations. This
>technique does not lead to fruitful discussions.

I cut out the quotes to save space, like everyone else. Glenn seems
to be implying that I did this "carefully" as a "technique". He has
already accused me privately of a lack of "integrity" and of having
"suppressed the truth", so I guess this is his settled view of me? :-(
I will have to "turn the other cheek" (Mt 5:39)

I am still waiting for Glenn's "evidence" that "TODAY there are
some YEC's who hold to geocentrism." (emphasis mine).

God bless.

Stephen

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