Duane Gish in Peru

From: Oscar Gonzalez <ecoteologo@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat Oct 16 2004 - 00:40:04 EDT

Hi ASAers
 
I have been following your discussions with great interest for three years.
 
Today I met the famous creationist speaker Duane Gish. I know him by his publication "Creacion, evolucion y el registro fosil" since pregraduate. When I became a christian, this was the first book that I bought on the topic "Science and christianity" (Up to now, there is nothing written here in spanish in this topic that is not creationist).
 
He gave two speeches, one in the auditorium of the Faculty of Chemistry of the Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos where I studied for my M.S. in Zoology and the other in the Christian and Missionary Alliance, my church.
 
Here are some ideas that I recorded from him in both places:
 
(1) There is no evidence of any kind of transicional forms. There is not any fossil that shows the transcicion of invertebrate to vertebrate. The first bat for example, had its sonar system complete.
(2) When he was asked on the Archaeopterix, he replied that it was a true bird. It had wings with normal feathers, perching feet and good flight. The teeth and claws don't give any evidence of antiquity. Quoted Feduccia telling that he believes that Archaeopterix was like a modern bird. A feather is very different from a reptilian scale. The claim of an issue of National Geographic magazine that the missing link between birds and dinosaurs was discovered in China was later confirmed to be a faked specimen.
(3) Due to the fall of man, animals began to kill each others and changed from vegetarian to meat eaters.
 
Here I made him the question "How the meat eaters were designed after the fall?" He explained again the consequences of the fall and said that God could have created animals with sharp teeth to be vegetarian and then changed to meat eaters.
 
(4) Dinosaurs are extint because they failed to repopulate the earth after the flood. The new weather has less water vapor that pre-flood athmosphere.
(5) He recognized that no human bones were found in the same place as dinosaur bones, but quotes that footprints of humans and dinosaurs have been found together
(6) The radiometric methods to date the earth are based in assumptions and can not give us any evidence for dating any rock.
(7) Genetics give us by exploring mithocondrial DNA to a 6000 year of the first human. The 200000 years data is an assumption of evolutionists.
(8) Evolution violates everything about physical and chemical laws.
(9) Evolutionist dominates all the educational system in USA, for creation scientists is almost impossible to publish in technical journals. Creation is as religious as evolution, so both should be taught in public schools.
 
After the last talk, my wife insisted to get closer and greet him, and discuss with him. (She knows that I believe in evolution and wanted to confront him with my deep questions on the topic). I didn't do that. Gish is an old man and he looked very tired at that moment. I just told him that I am a christian biologist whose interest is in the conservation of creation; not creationsim. And that his book was the first one about science and christianity that I bought. Then said goodby with a "God bless you".
 
I will appreciate comments or guidance to web pages for critics to Gish's points here recorded.
 
Sincerely,

Oscar Gonzalez
A Rocha Peru Team Leader
www.arocha.org
Gomez del Carpio 135
Barrio Medico, Lima 34, Peru
E-mail: ecoteologo@yahoo.com
http://myprofile.cos.com/pajarologo
Tel 511-4477215 551-97485199

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