From: Debbie Mann (deborahjmann@insightbb.com)
Date: Thu Sep 11 2003 - 11:56:37 EDT
John, the atheist who accosted our Christian list recently, and I have been
corresponding off line. He is actually polite and does not appear to bite,
or even rant uncontrollably as other atheists seem to do. He is looking for
an apologist to argue the existence of God with him using logical methods.
Is there anyone on the list up to being John's offline debate opponent?
-----Original Message-----
From: chromatech2@juno.com [mailto:chromatech2@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:16 AM
To: deborahjmann@insightbb.com
Subject: Re: Science Taken From the Bible (KJV)
Hello again!
>My point is, that that is impossible to prove or disprove. Youcan't
prove
that there is no God. Instead, you make a hypothesis about who God is and
how he would behave and prove that that image of God does not exist.
*I think the proof lies heavily on the person who is making the
extraordinary claim.
>You believe that there cannot be a God because there is not justice. I
believe that there must be a God to ensure that ultimately justice does
occur.
*ON GOD'S JUSTICE AND MERCY
1.) If God is "all just" then he always dispenses justice with the exact
amount of severity deserved by the crime.
2.) If God is "all merciful" then he always dispenses justice with less
severity than is deserved by the crime.
3.) You cannot dispense justice with less severity and exact severity at
the same time.
> don't know if you are a science fiction fan, I am except that I don't
like
war - which eliminates a lot of it. One theologian theorized that none of
this is real. That God set up this hologram so thoroughly that a tree
appears to be aged, even though it isn't. Certainly, if Adam was created,
he
would have appeared to have years he did not have. It isn't such a leap
to
go to the hologram theory.
* I watch science fiction only it's hard tell it's science fiction.
When you (and other Christians) start talking about other worlds and
false realities, you lose me. It's all about Naturalism for me, we
shouldn't try to confuse or complicate things any more than we have to.
:-)
John Schwartz
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