RE: Fibbonacci and other mathematical patterns in shells

From: Alexanian, Moorad (alexanian@uncw.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 18 2003 - 13:46:46 EDT

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    Perhaps someone can tell me why isn’t, say, an electron intelligently designed? A brick is just as intelligently designed as a house!

     

    Moorad

            -----Original Message-----
            From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of George Murphy
            Sent: Mon 8/18/2003 12:55 PM
            To: Howard J. Van Till
            Cc: Sarah Berel-Harrop; asa@calvin.edu
            Subject: Re: Fibbonacci and other mathematical patterns in shells
            
            

            Howard J. Van Till wrote:
    >
    > >From: "Sarah Berel-Harrop" <sec@hal-pc.org>
    >
    > > Well, while we are at it, neither are ID (in the sense
    > > that the Creation reveals God's activity, eg in the
    > > sense of Ps 19, Romans 1:18-20, etc) and evolutionary
    > > biology, or even NS & RM alone, mutually exclusive,
    > > and Josh has already admitted that, but the supposed
    > > mutual exclusivity of the two is a major point underlying
    > > Dembski, Johnson, et al's arguments.
    >
    > The mutual exclusivity of ID (as defined by Dembski et al) and wholly
    > natural causation is a product of the rhetoric of ID advocates. Dembski
    > makes it especially clear.
            
                    I don't think it's due just to the rhetoric. The whole usefulness of ID for the
            attack on "naturalism" depends on the assumption that some intelligently designed things
            can't be the result of natural causation. & it's only the attack on "naturalism" that
            gives ID the importance that it has in present-day culture.
            
                                                            Shalom,
                                                            George
            
                                                             
            
            
            
            George L. Murphy
            gmurphy@raex.com
            http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
            
            

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