RE: Coal and YEC models

From: Glenn Morton (glenn.morton@btinternet.com)
Date: Tue Jul 30 2002 - 08:48:30 EDT

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    >If I remember right that criticism can not be used for paleozoic coals
    >since NO PALEOZOIC sediments are preserved in deep ocean basins. Unless
    >the explanation changed the assumption is that as ocean floor spreads it
    >goes under the continental shelfs and this process has removed all the
    >older sediments from the ocean.
    >
    >I don't know how old sediments there are in the ocean but Glenn's point
    >is valid for recent coals but it won't work for Carboniferous coals.

    In general, you are correct, the paleozoic sediments have been subducted.
    But that in and of itself presents a problem for the global flood advocates.
    One simply can't have the oceans subducting at rates that would have had to
    apply if this explanation is to be used within the YEC model. To do it
    would require a different rock strength than we observe and at least
    according to Baumgardner's runaway subduction model, the production of 10^28
    joules of heat which would melt the earth. And if you don't have rapid
    subduction, then you should have paleozoic coals in the ocean basin. Thus
    the YECs are hooked between the horns of a dilemma. Either they have enough
    heat to melt the earth or they have to have a fence around each continent to
    prevent the mats from escaping over the oceanic basins.

    There is one final point. There are small pieces of Paleozoic oceanic crust
    on the continents. These are the ophiolites and they are oceanic crust which
    was thrust on top of the continents rather than subducting. I know of no
    coal found with those suites.

    glenn

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