Hi, Adrian
well, the idea comes from science, of course. Scientifically
speaking, a human being develops from a human embryo. Some have
earlier claimed that human beings came delivered by storks, but I
believe that particular claim has been refuted:-)I agree about no
partial human beings, but lets discuss the narrow issue of soul
infusion before we discuss the broader ethical implications of human
personhood.
Cordially,
Shuan
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From: Adrian Teo [mailto:ateo@whitworth.edu]
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Subject: RE: Infusion of the soul as a process
Hello Shaun,
Embryos becoming humans? Where does this idea come from, and
metaphysically, how can it ever be credibly argued? Human personhood
either is or isn't. There are no partial human persons.
Adrian.
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Subject: RE: Infusion of the soul as a process
The problem I see here is that according to what I
have heard, for the
embryo to go on to be a human being, it has to implant in the
wall of the
uterus. Otherwise, it just gets washed out with the next menstrual
flow-something that happens quite often. Do those embryos
have fully formed
souls too?
See http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual/section18/chapter248/248a.htm.
According to this web site, the spinal cord and nervous system does not
start to form until day 1o. The major organs, including ( I
guess )the brain
( the presumed seat of the soul) form by somewhere around day 70.
Are there any experts on fetal development out there?If we are going to
guess about the date of the infusion of the soul, let us have
an educated
guess.
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Subject: RE: Infusion of the soul as a process
Hello All,
Just a suggestion: How about the traditional view, that the huamn
soul is fully formed upon conception and therefore, the conceptus is
a fully human person?
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Subject: Infusion of the soul as a process
In a message dated 7/20/02 11:39:01 AM,
hoss_radbourne@hotmail.com writes:
<< Even with this answer, however, it is OK to speculate,
realizing that this
is metaphysics, not science. One speculation is that the
infusion of a soul
is a PROCESS, and takes place over the many months of
gestation, and,
perhaps, is not complete until sometime in childhood.
I don't like this
speculation; it implies that there are such things as either
"partial souls"
or "incomplete souls." >>
Burgy,
How about an "immature soul"? That makes the soul a
developing dimension of
human beings, reaching full maturity perhaps sometime in
early adolescence,
or at the age of accountability, as some of us old
timers called it.
Just speculating.
Regards,
Bob
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