RE: Infusion of the soul as a process

From: Glenn Morton (glenn.morton@btinternet.com)
Date: Tue Jul 23 2002 - 09:20:06 EDT

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    Victorian Wife wrote on Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:36 PM
    >I have never heard of two
    >fully formed embryos fusing back together into one embryo (it might but I
    >haven't heard about it and would suspect to be very very rare if at all if
    >you apply stringent scientific criteria to was is separate in the first
    >place).

    Consider:

    "Cysts, called teratomas, composed of bits of hair and teeth and
    foetal bones are sometimes discovered in adults. Either they are
    errant cells that have reverted to a primitive embryological state
    or the remnant of a vanished identical twin. Dead fetuses have
    also been found inside living children. There is a well-known case
    in 1949 of such a 'foetus-in-foetu', in which five fetuses were
    removed from the brain of an infant girl in Philadelphia; several
    less spectacular cases have been reported since, including a six-
    pound foetus round during the autopsy of an elderly man. These
    events probably accidents of timing during early pregnancy.
    Identical twinning is thought to occur on or before the fourteenth
    day after conception. If the division happens early in that cycle,
    the embryos will be in separate placentas, like nearly all
    fraternal twins By the end of the fourth day, the chorion, which
    is the outer placental membrane, will have formed, and if the
    zygote divides after that time, as is the case with two-thirds of
    MZ twins, they develop in a single placenta. If the division
    occurs between the fifth and the eight day, the twins will still
    be encased in separate amniotic sacs, but if they divide after the
    eighth day there will be nothing between them. Half of these late-
    splitting twins die, often strangling in each others umbilical
    cords. It is thought that by the twelfth day the division is
    likely to be incomplete, resulting in conjoined or Siamese twins,
    which occur in abut one out of 400 MZ births, foetus-in-foetu, and
    teratomas. These are, however, only theories. One can also make
    the case that the twinning process got stuck at the beginning and
    never advanced. These abnormalities are far more prevalent in
    girls than in boys, since male twins (like all boys) are more
    likely to miscarry." Lawrence Wright, Twins, (London: Phoenix
    Books, 1997), p. 78-79

    MZ=Monozygotic

    People have also been found with fraternal twin fusions, in which the person
    has two different tissue types in different parts of his body.

    glenn

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